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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1134 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 23:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you Dave

Marriages search within 10 miles of Gateshead, 1775 to 1803 -

But no Jane

1796 Chapelry of Heworth near Gateshead [probably the one buried from Blue Quarries]
John Hood = Barbara Bailey

Burial 31st Dec 1800
John Hood age 55 (birth 1745) a Shoemaker abode Blue Quarries entry Heworth Chapelry

Barbara Hood (marital status not given) might be the one marrying Thomas Sharp, 15th November 1801 at Jarrow?
Heworth Chapelry was part of the Parish of Jarrow.

Or, marrying, Henry Murdock 29th November 1802, Newcastle All Saints, by Banns (no marital status given for Barbara Hood)


1790 from Boyd's Index Newcastle St Andrew (says WOOD not Hood)
John WOOD = Mary Rutlidge

1779, 15 Dec, Newcastle All Saints
John Hood & Elizabeth Gibson

1779, 18 April, Newcastle All Saints
John Hood & Mary Starling

1779, 15 Nov'r, Newcastle St Johns
Adam Miller (Not John Hood, indexed wrong) & Ann Knox

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Any further back and John Hood of Selby, Mariner, from Scarborough, was still married in Scarborough, Yorkshire, to Elizabeth.

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Knottingley

Got the following Death Certificate:-

1840, 16th January, at Knottingley, John Hood, 75 years, Ferry Man, Robert Grubb, Informant

1764 John Hood is certainly to be the one baptised Knottingley ...
1764 John Son of John Hood, baptised

1761, 12th October, Pontefract St Giles & St Mary, by Banns
John Hood = Sarah Thompson
Present as wits. John Leak ; J. Loadsman

1822 John Hood, Water'n [Sen'r] abode Knottingley, was buried Knottingley 15th January 1822, 83 years.

Added:

1791 The surname Leak ties up with an Elizabeth Leake, a witness at the Knottingley, 6th December 1791 George Grubb & Ann Hood, marriage.
The others present as wits. were: John Gill ; Wm Dickinson.

Grubb

Notes: The Grubb linked to my Tree are a separate Grubb family, to the Grubb linked to Hood of Knottingley when traced backward and also to different places in Yorkshire.

My Grubb, are the Same Grubb Family That Married Into Maudland Turner's Family

Incidentally, the Grubb Family who married into a branch from my line, can also be traced back to the same Grubb couple of those who married into the family of Maudland Turner (nee Maudland Hood).

Mark

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1135 on: Thursday 24 April 25 12:32 BST (UK) »
I have a theory based own my ancestry

To cut a long story short !
My paternal Gt granddad came from tiny village called Peakirk near Peterborough, born abt circa 1841,
before the 1871c he had moved to Knottingley as an innkeeper, he married a local girl- my Gt granny named Jackson with her local family history, covering Beal, Blane, Birkin, Kellington, Selby and Snaith area Parish. By the family moved to Huddersfield where Gt grandad was an Innkeeper in Huddersfield.
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You'll need to sigh in

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZGD-9NG?lang=en



My theory

Did John Hood Innkeeper of the Ship Inn south shore Gateshead move south to a Pub or Inn around knottingley area post 1787 Gateshead trade directory

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Those RC registers you mention could hold some Hood as there is no C of E parish Hood entries around Kellington/Knottingley area (unusual) on Familysearch except one John Hood baptism 1745 Snaith

Hello Dave & All

According to Baines 1822 Directory, no Hood, with an Inn, nor Publican, Victualler, etc.

https://knottingley.org.uk/history/baines_directory.htm

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Some bits found on Neaverson of Peakirk, Northants ...


Something in the National Library of Australia
John Neaverson, of Peakirk, Peterborough, England?
The Adelaide Observer 01 Feb 1930
01 Feb 1930
English Farmer at Roseworthy, Bred Champion Sow in England


National Library of New Zealand
Newspapers 23 August 1901
The Show of the Royal Agricultural Society
Sub Paragraph: Novelties in the Implement Division
Messrs. R. and R. Neaverson, of Peakirk, Peterborough


Neaverson of Peakirk, Peterborough
Charles Neaverson, of Peakirk, Northant's Merchant., in a pdf about "South Holland's Heritage"


Internet Archive
Neaverson, of Peakirk, Peterborough, sells a beautiful puppy-run on wheels in several sizes from


Sometimes Northants is shortened to Norths


London Gazette, 29th June 1923
 ... Herbert Edwin Berry, of Selby, in the county of York, Coal Merchant, Charles Neaverson, of Peakirk, Peterborough, in the county of Northampton, Brickmaker, and Thomas Hurst Pearson, of Selby, aforesaid, Brickmaker, ...

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1136 on: Friday 25 April 25 13:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the Neaverson info Mark
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Grubb

quote:

1840, 16th January, at Knottingley, John Hood, 75 years, Ferry Man, Robert Grubb, Informant

1764 John Hood is certainly to be the one baptised Knottingley ...
1764 John Son of John Hood, baptised

Unquote

Above could be link to your Hood's _ this 1764 John Hood could be the right age for a son born 1786 ish.

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Still thinking out of the box again.

Say for argument sake: your George was an illegitimate child baptised in his mothers surname ? who later married a man called Hood or again baptised in his mothers surname but later took his illegitimate father surname Hood. If so could the mothers surname be your George's children's links to their grandmother (George's unknown mothers surname) being one of your known linking surnames Grubb, Pearson, Todd, Cook, Cookin, Wilkinson etc.

Last Jane ???? (Died 1803 Selby) X John Hood of Selby & Scarborough never married and George was baptised illegitimate in Jane's surname but took his  illegitimate dad's surname later, - Jane being a  Grubb, Pearson, Todd, Cook, Cookin Wilkinson( <- Could explain why George was there in Knottingley 1813 with George Wilkinson - his dad  ???)  etc. ?

Last: Have you a surname that keeps popping up downstream of 1812 that you can't link to anything


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In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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« Reply #1137 on: Friday 25 April 25 20:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the comments.

1) The year before a George Hood, was there at Knottingley, it was a John Cook in that Tenement. See the link and image snippets in p.1 of that thread.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=758380.msg7599711#msg7599711

2) Part of the Knottingley Register on a few pages, are worn away and it looks like writing is missing.

Just had a larger wide screen, I will try and read the B.T. copies again, to check where Register pages are missing against the B.T. But I think I paid to have the original inspected.

3) 1813 February, Knottingley,
Robert, son of Hannah Hood, illegitimate, Knottingley, baptised. Snippet attached.

According to Robert Hood's marriage and the 1851 Census, John Hood, Waterman, was the Father.

1838, 20th August
Robert Hood, full age, Bachelor, Waterman, Knottingley, Father: John Hood, Waterman.
Ann Hirst, full age, spinster, Hillam, Joseph Hirst, Labourer.

1851 Pontefract
Rob't Hood, Head, Mar, 38, Mariner, born Knottingley, Yorks.
Ann Hood, Wife, Mar, 42, born Fryston, Yorkshire.

Hannah Hood, died, Single Woman aged 63 in 1842 and Sarah Wodsworth was the Informant. I seem to think a Wadsworth connection to this Hood of Knottingley family some time later (more recent).

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Looks to be the same informant as 26th December 1843, William Hood, 74yrs, Ferryman at Knottingley, mark of Sarah Woodsworth, present.

I mentioned before, that if George Hood paid the rent and tax for a year (but did not occupy himself) the baptism in February 1813 is perfectly timed to be paying the Tax in March 1813.

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I need to look through my folders to check if I have any unaccounted later Marriage witness.

Mark


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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1138 on: Saturday 26 April 25 16:15 BST (UK) »
Its strange the tenants change each year 1812-1813-1814 also a Cook and a Grubb were tenants.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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« Reply #1139 on: Saturday 26 April 25 20:57 BST (UK) »
Its strange the tenants change each year 1812-1813-1814 also a Cook and a Grubb were tenants.

I agree Dave:-

And yes, George Hood, baptised with his Mother's surname? My late Grandmother said a 'woman in every port' I don't know why she said such a phrase, or whether it was just said as a suggestion for this or something else.

John Cook, Marriage ; Seaman; burials, etc:- See Additions at bottom.

Knottingley Land Tax

The Owner being George Wilkinson.

Occupiers
1812
(p.15)
Himself  10d [George Wilkinson]
James Knowles  8d
John Cook  4d

1813
(p.17)
Himself  10d [George Wilkinson]
Frances Crowder  8d
Geo: Hood  4d

1814
(p.17)
Himself  10d [George Wilkinson]
Jas Beaumont  8d
John Grubb  4d

If you click on the following link, you will see where I have made a tentative or possible link from Fanny Crowder to James Beaumont in pencil on the attachment.

One of the possible suitors (out of several) for Elizabeth Crowder, baptised Knottingley 1781, was James Beaumont.

Reply #54
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=758380.msg7599711#msg7599711

Before I have mentioned the Beaumont surname in relation to the vessel the 'Countess of Scarborough'.

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Dean of Gainsborough

Joseph Dean, inherited from his Father (who died 1787), on the basis Joseph Dean was Heir at Law (No Will appeared to be listed).

By 1820 'Henry Mills & Son' and 'Dean & Beaumont' have a Sream Packet vessel called the Countess of Scarborough sailing York, Selby and Gainsborough.

Mr Beaumont died 5th November 1817, in the 58th year of his age and Notice confirms of the firm Dean and Beaumont.

More about 'Dean and Beaumont' here:- 

Reply # 75
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.msg6587391#msg6587391

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1781 Banns, Scarborough

In the Scarbough Banns Book, there are Marriage Banns Published for:-
John Hood & Martha Dean
August the 5th ; 12th ; 19th 1781

But no Marriage at Scarborough and none of the Scarborough Banns say if any of the couples were marrying elsewhere?

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But never able to tie any of the loose ends up, including who Jane Hood, Wife of John Hood of Selby, Mariner, 65 yrs, buried Selby, 15th August 1803, was.

I even ordered the 1803 Will of Jane Cook of Pontefract, in case Jane Hood wasn't really married.

Mark

ADDED:

1806 Marriage - Knottingley
1st December 1806 by Banns
John Cook
Charlotte Hargrave
Present as wits: Michael Turner ; Wm Dickinson


Pontefract Burial
1811, 12th December
John Cook son of Hannah Cook, illeg


Pontefract Burial
1821
John Cook,
Abode Pontefract,
29th April,
Age 60


Womersley Burial
1828
John Cooke
Abode Womersley,
22nd June,
Age 64 years.


Merchant Seaman,
(TNA, Cat. Ref: BT 114/5 )
John Cook, born Knottingley
No. of Register Ticket 3,380
No date of Birth.

Appears to cover 1845 to 1854
Registry of Shipping and Seamen: Alphabetical Index to Registers of Seamen's Tickets
Appears to cover 1845 to 1854
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1735562


1825 Army record for John COOKE
Attested at Hull 18th March 1825
Born at or near Pontefract
Aged 24 years
[Born about 1801]

By 1839 he has Chronic Rheumatism and is Worn Out - Woolwich Hospital

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1140 on: Sunday 27 April 25 09:50 BST (UK) »
John Cook of Knottingley, 1812 Land Tax

Knottingley Land Tax

The Owner being George Wilkinson.

Occupiers
1812
(p.15)
Himself  10d [George Wilkinson]
James Knowles  8d
John Cook  4d

1813
(p.17)
Himself  10d [George Wilkinson]
Frances Crowder  8d
Geo: Hood  4d

1814
(p.17)
Himself  10d [George Wilkinson]
Jas Beaumont  8d
John Grubb  4d


1806 Marriage - Knottingley

1st December 1806 by Banns
John Cook
Charlotte Hargrave
Present as wits: Michael Turner ; Wm Dickinson


The same Michael Turner is at this Marriage ...

1799 Wakefield, All Saints, 29th July, by Banns
Michael Turner of the Parish of Pontefract
Sarah Fieldhouse of this Parish
Present as wits: Hannah Walker's mark ; Tho's Priestley

1802 Wakefield, 13th September 1802 by Licence
Thomas Priestley of this Parish
Mary Turner of the Same
Present as wits: Stephen Priestley ; Frances Turner


Turner of South Kirkby
I have done a lot of research over several years into Frances and the Male children of Thomas Turner, Blacksmith of South Kirkby who were baptised from 1760 to 1783 (Frances Turner, 13th child, baptised 1783), also acquired 3 Wills of the descendant family and one Will of John Turner Baptised South Kirkby, Yorkshire, 1760, also marriages of the Turner identified born South Kirkby.

Charles Turner born South Kirkby [bapt 1770], married Maudland Hood at Selby in 1794 and lived long enough to be an inmate in Selby Workhouse in the 1851 Census.

Turner of South Kirkby, research included the various links to Yorkshire places, including Wakefield - researched in great detail.

Michael Turner

The Michael Turner, in this reply links at Marriages to my Turner Research and Maudland Turner, nee Hood.


John Cook of Knottingley

1st December 1806 by Banns
John Cook
Charlotte Hargrave
Present as wits: Michael Turner ; Wm Dickinson

Two children baptised at Pontefract and St Botolph, Knottingley ...

Pontefract
1808, 10th January
Ann, daughter of John & Charlotte Cooch, Abode Knottingley, Lab:r

Knottingley, St Botolph
1810, 29th July
Sarah, daughter of John & Charlotte Cooke, Lab'r

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I have identified two baptisms at Darfield to a John & Charlotte Cook:

1816 Mary
1818 Betty

But here comes a problem with these two baptised 1816 & 1818 Darfield.

Darfield, Yorkshire, is only 7 miles from Clayton with Frickley, Yorkshire and a John Cook born Kirk Sandall, Yorkshire, married Charlotte Wood at Frickley and this John Cook and Charlotte appear in the 1851 Census.

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What Happened to John Cook of Knottingley, please?

Unfortunately, I have been unable to confirm John Cook, alias Cooch, alias John Cooke of Knottingley and family, after the 1810 Baptism at Knottingley (above)?

Mark

Added: Michael Turner is a new name to me too, but I will look into him later.

But any help with John & Charlotte Cook / Cooke of Knottingley, please?

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1141 on: Sunday 27 April 25 10:42 BST (UK) »
Just to added to my last post,

You have already worked on the surnames that were used in your George Hood's grandchildren's names as middle names, or family marriage's connection spouse maiden names  thus ? if his grandkids  maiden middle names (surname's) mean so much - why not use George's illegitimate mothers (Granny) own name or the illegitimate father surname (if known unless called Hood) be one of these middle names.
 
Having said that! being 'born out of wedlock' was a taboo! them days so! hence George's past - if born illegitimate would be keep quiet him being a businessman as he was - his birth surname is never mentioned.

Therefore the mysterious Jane Hood 1803 Selby burial of wife of John Hood the mariner with their unknown marriage?  reason being they never married with Jane having a illegitimate child, that C o E church would not accept Jane to marry them and so they jump the brush instead which was accepted them days as married.

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If Jane Hood buried aged 65 1803 Selby wife of John Hood mariner was your George's mother then she would have been 48 years old in 1786 George Hopod estimated year of birth and a little old though not impossible to have a child that age - but! I'm think your George was born a little earlier say from 1778 based on Lane Hood's age to 1784 (Average 1781 Jane being aged 43 when she had George )

Michael Turner -? Maudland (John Hood mariners daughter  ) Mrs Turner - Wonder if there a connection there.

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Working on the Wilkinson surname
possible

George Wilkinson (Hood ?)

Yorkshire, Bishop's Transcripts, 1547-1957
Baptism  27 November 1785
Broughton, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
Birth  3 October 1785 
Parent Jenny

'Jenny is primarily a shortened form of the names Jennifer and Jane.'

Jane Hood burial 1803 Selby ?

Its the only George birth/baptism 1785 years single woman parent that come up in the list of middle surnames of George Hood of Selby grandchildren so far!
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« Reply #1142 on: Monday 28 April 25 15:34 BST (UK) »
Thank you Dave

Your Reply # 73 was a classic example, of George Pearson, illegitimate, mother Ann alias Hannah Pearson was moving between Parishes which may even have delayed the child's baptism.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=756955.msg6128019#msg6128019

One of John Hood's Boat Crew from Rawcliff

Reply #58
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.msg6543036#msg6543036

With Jno Ellerthorp, being linked to Rawcliff, John Hood, was not without a reason to be loitering about, or frequenting a pub in Rawcliff, Snaith, or Rawcliff Bridge (Whitley was only 11 miles from Rawcliffe Bridge)?

I wonder that too, if one of the spare middle names (a surname) might be George Hood's illegitimate baptism surname, or even the surname of mystery Jane Hood, buried Selby 1803?

Next, I am going to see what happened to her other child/ren and if any clues there.

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Surname CLARK

1) I don't know if the purchase of 4/5th Shares of the late John CLARK's, Tannery at Selby, was a coincidence by George Hood, or not.

2) Research indicates the mother of John COOK of Knottingley (in 1812), looks to be surname CLARK.

3) The Wife of John Spencer, the Landlord of John Hood of Selby, Mariner, was also surname CLARK, too.

John Spencer, 'Grocer' at the time, purchased this house at Millgate, Selby, whilst John Hood was a 'sitting Tenant' (Land Tax & Deed Memorials) and John Hood remained a Tenant afterward for over a decade.

John Cook of Pontefract and Knottingley

1st December 1806 by Banns
John Cook
Charlotte Hargrave
Present as wits: Michael Turner ; Wm Dickinson

Two children baptised at Pontefract and St Botolph, Knottingley ...

Pontefract
1808, 10th January
Ann, daughter of John & Charlotte Cooch, Abode Knottingley, Lab:r

Knottingley, St Botolph
1810, 29th July
Sarah, daughter of John & Charlotte Cooke, Lab'r

Further Information - about John COOK, son of John COOK

John Cook who married 1806, was likely baptised on the 8th June 1785 at Pontefract and was one of 12 children baptised to John and Mary Cook, between 1782 to 1805, at Pontefract.

Here is their Marriage:-

1780 at Fishlake, Yorkshire ...

John COOK of the Parish of PONTEFRACT Batch'r aged 32 and Mary CLARK of this Parish Spinster aged 26 were married in the chapel by Banns this day 5th Day De'ber 1780 by Rob' Hardy in ye presence of John Nettleton and Richard Clark.

Mark