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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1125 on: Sunday 20 April 25 19:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Mark.

Have you ever researched this George Wilkinson property owner of Knottingley, where a George Hood resided as a tenant 1813 (being its a possible earliest known connection to your George Hood - ?) to see if there is a Hood connection to this George Wilkinson family history to these later downstream Hood -Wilkinson's

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=758380.msg6086926#msg6086926
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1126 on: Sunday 20 April 25 22:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks Dave,

I have posted a reply here to keep it together with the George Wilkinson of Knottingley topic ...

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=758380.msg7649134#msg7649134

I've have a terrible job to find which of my volumes my notes were in, as they were awkward to find and I also thought I had a burial or death for George Wilkinson of Knottingley.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1127 on: Monday 21 April 25 13:05 BST (UK) »
Hello

John Wilkinson Hood (born Selby, Yorkshire) who married Mary Ann Hopper in 1881 was the Brother of Bernard Pearson Hood (Two of the Sons of James Hood & Sarah Arundle, alias Wilkinson).

Burnett possibly should have been spelt Barnard or Bernard at Birth, because his name was Charles Barnard Hood when he died aged 5 yrs.

But there are old Barnard and Hood families of Selby, as well.

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The problem with Selby, Yorkshire, is that 100 years of Presbyterian records for Selby from c.1690 are missing.

The earliest Wesleyan Methodist from 1785 - no records.

The Catholic Survey, Returns of Papists of 1767 for Selby, Yorkshire, were allowed to submit only single letters for forename & surname, in the Return (I have a printed edition of this Return).

Mark

Added: this 1858 Birth Certificate showing Sarah Arundle / Sarah Wilkinson, also suggests her Father was Wilkinson.

It was this parish register entry 266 image that caught my eye in above post (Hence my last post)

John Wilkinson father James Hood mother Sarah Hood (nee Wilkinson)

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« Reply #1128 on: Monday 21 April 25 23:28 BST (UK) »
Hello Dave

John Wilkinson HOOD - Named After John WILKINSON of Selby, Who Married Mary ARUNDEL in 1840

Just a recap, past comments on Rootschat, mainly from information in the Census, led us to believe that John Wilkinson was the Father of Sarah Arundel, baptised by the Wesleyan Chapel as illegitimate.

When the couple, James Hood, then a Currier & Sarah Arundel / Wilkinson, went to register the Birth of their Son, John Wilkinson HOOD, they are (as Rootschatters previously felt), admitting that they know the Father of Sarah Hood (nee Arundel or Wilkinson), was John Wilkinson.

The Mother of Sarah Arundel, Mary Arundel married John Wilkinson in 1840, at Hull.

Incidentally, John Wilkinson's Father was the Late, Edward Wilkinson, Victualler.

Mary Arundel's Father was George Arundel, Cordwainer.

That explains the naming of George Arundel HOOD, by James & Sarah HOOD.

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Other Names

Since, I could see a naming pattern, I've always wondered about the others.

Goughy, put all the names here:-

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=728231.msg5802351#msg5802351

William Russell HOOD, William Russell was Sarah RUSSELL's Father.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1129 on: Tuesday 22 April 25 09:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Mark

Whats in my mind at the moment, from your latest info are these linking surnames like Todd, Arundel, Cook, Pearson and Wilkinson

Occupations of a Victualler late Edward Wilkinson  father of John is interesting

I wonder if there is a link between landlord George Wilkinson of Knottingley 1813 land tax and this Edward Wilkinson (above)

Wilkinson is common surname and maybe this 1813 George Hood stay in Knottingley was just that! who could have picked any landlord and George just happened to pick George Wilkinson rental property.

or (Scenario)

If this George Hood (above) was your George Hood of Selby later a brewer (being the business man we now know of) looking into transport infrastructure of goods from Selby inland to the river Calder/Aire navigation and canal Selby to West Haddlesey (Just past Knottingley in the river Aire) - George Wilkinson could have been a business or family connection (ie Edward Wilkinson Victualler )

Business opportunities  ?

These years 1812 Selby land tax unknown George Hood and Knottingley 1813  landtax unknown George Hood also Richard Gibson bankrupt Selby,  to late George Hood marriage to Sarah Russel(l) in Selby 1815 - last the Selby Canal opened 1778 and then the River Ouse - Selby to Hull-Infrastructure (John Hood of Selby)

So who the heck was George Hood of Selby - Hence my Wilkinson interest or any early 1812 to 1819 death of John Hood mariner as any connecting surnames in this time period.

Then Jane Hood death 1803 Selby (Who the heck was she)
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« Reply #1130 on: Tuesday 22 April 25 23:31 BST (UK) »
For the purpose of elimination here's some surnames from Sarah's parentage (including step father Wilkinson)

Arundel - Grandparents:            George ARUNDEL and Hannah EYRE
               Grt grandparents:      Joseph EYRE and Hannah PYGOT
                                               Mathew ARUNDEL and Ann JACKSON

Wilkinson   "step" grandparents  Edward WILKINSON and Margaret TWIST
                    "gt  grandparents  John TWIST and Rebecca CRABTREE
                                                William WILKINSON and Jane ??

and just to put James' parentage here for future reference (obviously only from the Russell side)

Russell     Grandparents            William RUSSELL and Mary BURTON
               Gt grandparents         John RUSSELL and Martha HOTCHSON [Martha signed HODGSON]
                                              Edward BURTON and William SILVERWOOD

So......  the Cook and Pearson names are looking as though they are from GH's side of the family (unless they went totally off-piste!).

Naming children from grandparents, particularly female surnames,   etc is quite common and still goes on today.  Usually, the female  surnames point research "in the right" direction, but hey ho in the case of GH who  knows!!



EDIT : Can somebody just briefly put down or tell me which Wilkinson is related by marriage to Sarah Arundal ? Are they linked to the Wilkinsons in my prior posts ?

In 1851, Sarah's mum Mary Arundell is with husband John Wilkinson - stone agent  (parents Edward Wilkinson and Margaret Twist) and Sarah is with them

Thanks Dave

At Reply #996

Quote from Claire re Edward Wilkinson, Innkeeper, but don't quite understand all of the quote, from the link.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=756955.msg6575241#msg6575241

Yes, no information on Jane Hood, Wife of John Hood of Selby, Mariner, buried 15th August 1803 Register 65 yrs, is a nuisance!

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1131 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 06:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Mark

This time period 1812 - 1815

Knottingley/Kellington area

Chester Newby

Samuel Hirst Diaries

George Hood talents of a businessman of Selby
            x      x       x
The inland waterways infrastructure

Quote: from you #996 post

"There is another link too, including in the Samuel Hirst Diaries (born Cridling Stubbs) of a visit by George Hood returning from Askern." unquote;

Campsall next village to Askern (on the A19 road to Selby by the way) is steeped in deep history with records (Ironic - Campsall is where Robin Hood's Barnsdale Wood/Forest is. Be it a few centuries earlier ;D)

Claire seems to have done a lot of delving on this concept area Kellington and you -  this is something that fits because its that limited unknown right time period.

William Hood the Chester Newby marriage witness.

 ???

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1132 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 16:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks Dave

There were some Hood farmers also recorded in the Hirst Diaries that mentioned Cridling Stubbs and a George Hood, and a horse he purchased 1830s.

According to the following website about the sale of Stapleton Park, it seems Cridling Stubbs was part of it.

Lord Petre was in residence at Stapleton Park until he went to Brussels, p.85.
Book link in Reply #3
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=882680.msg7554805#msg7554805

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Hepworth Wakefield, The Gott Collection (HWTGC)

Plan of the Lordship of Stapleton and lands laying within the townships of Cridling Stubbs and Little Smeaton, Yorkshire, engraved under the direction of Messr. Driver by G. Mills, 51 Nelson Sq., Blackfriars, 1813

https://www.yorkshiregardenstrust.org.uk/index.php/research/sites/stapleton-park

On the Yorkshire Gardens Trust website much of an 1813 Plan and some other interesting Maps, 11 images in the "Gallery" viewer are displayed.

Stapleton Hall
Advertised
York Herald, 9th Ocober 1813

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The Stapleton Hall Estate had previously been advertised for Sale in 1811 with another Agent, but Advert was not detailed regarding who the Tenants were.

Morning Chronicle, 18th June 1811

YORKSHIRE.-A CAPITAL ESTATE with noble Mansion, Parks, Woods, Farms &c.-To be SOLD by AUCTION, by Mr White at Garraway's Coffee-house, Exchange-alley, Cornhill, on Thursday the 27th instant, at one o'clock, an extensive and valuable FREEHOLD ESTATE, called Stapleton Hall, in the finest part of the county of York, between Doncaster and Ferrybridge with the manor appendant to the same, being an entire and complete lordship. ...
Mr Jefferys, at Stapleton Hall, will shew the estate, particulars are preparing, and may be had 21 days previous to the sale, of J. Carr, Esq. Wakefield ; of Messrs. Mills Robinson and Young, No. 1, Parliament-street ; of Messrs. Pearce and Kent, Craig's-court, where a map of the Estate may be seen ; at Garraway's ; and of Mr White, Storey's gate, Great George Street, Westminster.

No 1811 Particulars located so far, a shame because they sometimes name Tenants.

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Several points about Stapleton Park, in the Parish of Darrington, they had their own Chapel in the house being Catholics and it seems the Tenantry used mainly, Womersley or Kirk Smeaton Churches, possibly some going to Darrington.

The Stapleton Family of Carlton, Snaith, were mainly Catholic.
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There is an R.C. Register covering quite a period in years either side of the approximate Birth year of George Hood, for the area, but the R.C. Diocesan Archives, told me they had no facilities to allow public researchers to visit, nor photographic imaging, despite formal enquiries.

They politely admitted a Register existed for the area and period of my interest and that was it.

I asked the Yorkshire Archive that holds some R.C. and N.C. Registers for the 19th Century if they had any plans regarding pre 1800 Registers like this sitting in Archives and their reply didn't offer any hope re access?

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ADDED:
Anyway, somebody called George Hood, had appeared in the Knottingley Land Tax in March 1813 for a year.

The 1822 Directory says George Wilkinson of Racca Green was a Shopkeeper and a Corn and Flour Dealer.
https://knottingley.org.uk/history/baines_directory.htm

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #1133 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 19:57 BST (UK) »
I have a theory based own my ancestry

To cut a long story short !
My paternal Gt granddad came from tiny village called Peakirk near Peterborough, born abt circa 1841,
before the 1871c he had moved to Knottingley as an innkeeper, he married a local girl- my Gt granny named Jackson with her local family history, covering Beal, Blane, Birkin, Kellington, Selby and Snaith area Parish. By the family moved to Huddersfield where Gt grandad was an Innkeeper in Huddersfield.
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You'll need to sigh in

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZGD-9NG?lang=en



My theory

Did John Hood Innkeeper of the Ship Inn south shore Gateshead move south to a Pub or Inn around knottingley area post 1787 Gateshead trade directory

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Those RC registers you mention could hold some Hood as there is no C of E parish Hood entries around Kellington/Knottingley area (unusual) on Familysearch except one John Hood baptism 1745 Snaith
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