George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W

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Hello Paul

Thank you for your interest and information about paperwork regarding the Retreat.

Convalescent or homes with 'Retreat' in their names were often Quaker establishments.

1790

An Act for building a bridge over the River Ouse at Selby [Local Act of Parliament 31 Geo III c.lx]

Your interest in the map has thrown up names Theodosia Hudson of Brayton and John Christopher Burton Dawnay, as Viscount Downe. [Called Baron Dawney in England].

I wondered who Viscount Downe was.

1763 St James, Picadilly
Rt Hon John Viscount Downe married
Lora Burton of this Parish at the dwelling house of the Hon. William Burton Esq in Clifford Street by Special Licence. Present:- Wm Burton; E Hildyard & Jas Dupres[?]

In my wider tree the Hudson surname features by marriages, along with Abraham Hodgson, Gentleman of Kingston upon Hull (Abraham M Hodgson on the probate listing).

The 1790 Act features in the North Yorkshire County Record Office Blog
https://nycroblog.com/2020/09/10/selby-toll-bridge/

Mark

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William Massey of Spalding, Lincs son of John Massey of the same place and Elizabeth his wife married Sarah PROCTOR daughter of Thomas PROCTOR of SELBY and Mary his wife. Date: 08 Jul 1785 at York

Relations by surname Priestman, Proctor, Belton, Tuke

John Massey, father of the above of Spalding yeoman married Elizabeth Newbold of Leeds, widow on 26 Oct. 1758

Relations : HIRD ( quite a few witnesses by this name too) , Westgarth, English, Horner

Some of the (Quaker) Hird in 1758 mentioned by Claire are:-

William Hird
William Hird, Junior [of Leeds Physician Mar'd Hannah Smith, 1758, Wid & Relict of George Smith, (Daur of Joseph & Rachel Storr of Hull) ]
Benjamin Hird [ (Son of Wm & Sarah) Mar"d Patience Kitson in 1757, (Daur of Joseph Kitson) ]
Sarah Hird
Patience Hird
Christiana Hird

John Hustler was at the Marriage.

1774 Quaker, Wm Hird of Leeds, Doctor Physic (Son of Wm & Sarah) Mar'd Sarah Titley of Warrington, Lancs, Daur of Joseph Fothergill, Ironmonger & Hannah [Kelsal].

John Hustler (1715 - 1790)
He had married in 1763 Christiana Hird (1731 - 1811), daughter of William Hird of Rawdon, and Sarah Hird. There were two sons and four daughters (only two of whom survived into adulthood.

Became a Director of the Bradford Banking Company and had links to other businesses named.He lived first at Bolton House and later purchased an Estate of 90 acres at Undercliffe.

John Hustler died 1790 at his home, Undercliffe House, 6 November 1790.
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I can't see a George Hird, Quaker Birth c.1786, to the above William Hird.
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William Massey, Jun'r of Selby
Selby, 6th December 1815, by Licence
William Massey, 23 yrs
Mary Procter, 22 yrs
Present at the Marriage:- Jn Fothergill , Jno Dickinson

William Massey of Selby was apparently disowned for a period for marrying in a church, he died in 1843. Massey's daughter married Isaac Hartas and they lived at Wrelton Hall, near Pickering.

When George Hood purchased from Lord Petre, William Massey was mentioned, (document dated 1836)

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I was interested in the wider family (to a Hood), of the witness signature at the William Massey 1815 marriage, at Selby, Yorkshire.

Regarding Jno Fothergill (signature above), present at the 1815 marriage of William Massey & Mary Procter ...
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The same Jno Fothergill signature Jno Fothergill, Senior, Surgeon, can be found in 1843 when Charlotte Fothergill got married.

Incidentally (in 1843), witness, Sophia Wilson was Sophia Fothergill, who married James Wilson of Whalley, at Selby, in 1830.

Born Selby 1785
John Fothergill was the Son of Mark Fothergill of Selby, Surgeon & Apothecary ~ Son of Francis Fothergill of Aiskew near Bedale Yeo. by Elizabeth his Wife Daughter of William Frankland of Yafforth, Gent.

William Hood of Kirkbridge, Yorkshire, married Grace, Daughter of Francis Firby Fothergill who descends from William Frankland
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=753233.msg6022116#msg6022116

Burke's Dictionary says:-
WILLIAM HOOD, of Kirkbridge, co. York, and lord of the Manor of West Firsby, co. Lincoln, married Grace, daughter of Francis-Firby Fothergill,* of Aiskew, co. York, and granddaughter of William Frankland, of Trinity College, Cambridge, and lord of the Manor of Yafforth, co. York

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If George Hood in Selby 1812 was related to Richard Gibson and came down to Selby from county Durham.
                     
Though it could be said that George Hood and Richard Gibson first contact 1812 was !! the only reason of these two meeting each other was because of Richard's bankruptcy


John Hood (this John Hood  would have been 30 years old in 1786  )

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975   Baptism  13 March 1757
Washington, Durham, England    Parents John Hood, Mary

Mark did you ever send for a copy of the bond allegation 1779

John Hood, Bachelor
Groom
England, Durham Diocese, Marriage Bonds & Allegations, 1692-1900   Marriage  14 December 1779

Durham, England, United Kingdom
Birth  1756     Spouses Elizabeth Gibson, Spinster   (Licence?)

John & Elizabeth Gibson actual (above ) marriage Newcastle upon Tyne 15 December 1779

Washington and Gateshead are near locations.

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The Bondsman in 1779 for "John Hood of the Chapelry of All Saints without the Walls but within the Liberties of the Town and County of Newcastle upon Tyne Mariner" & Elizabeth Gibson, a Spinster, marriage, was John Scott of the same place, Waterman.

1779 Allegation with ages attached (reduced to 20%)

Noted ... 27th August 1775 that a John Scott, Wat'n married Eleanor Hood, Wid'w, at Newcastle All Saints.
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It is possible that this John Hood may have become:-

Durham Chronicle, 25th September 1824.
At Morpeth, on the 17th inst. an old man of the name of Hood, who had formerly been a Keelman on the Tyne, and who had just come into the house from taking a walk, ... and instantly expired.

Because what seems to be a corresponding burial at Morpeth in 1824 gives his name as John Hood, Abode Morpeth, his age 68 years with burial on 19th September, just 2 days after Hood death in the newspaper.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=818531.msg6804908#msg6804908
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Rosamond Cook was the Daur of William Cook & Elizabeth Hood of Newcastle.

Wm Cook was late of Lowestoft at their childrens's Births, by nee Elizabeth Hood.

When Rosamund Cook / Rosamond Cook married in 1837 she gave her residence as Morpeth.

7 January 1837
Rosamund COOK hath resided in Morpeth for 15 days last past, Spinster, aged 21 years and Thomas ABBOTT of the Parish of Loders, Dorsetshire, Bachelor, aged 21 years hath prayed for a Licence.

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From ADM 142/6 Wills Register (pdf page 137 of microfilm)
No. 179 Joshua Hood, Ship’s Name “Commerce & Marseills” 9 November 1795 John Hood, Moshields, Brother

Looks like Moshields, but likely NoShields (abb’n., for North Shields?)

1795 Admiralty Will of Joshua Hood
The Admiralty Will of Joshua Hood, which gave his Brother as John Hood of North Shields was on the Ship Commerce de Marseilles (reference also to "Boyne", on outer)

Muster Table
I also have part of the Ships Muster / Log image from TNA, Kew
ADM 36/11304 & 36/11305

Commerce de Marseilles, 1795
Place and County Where Born Newcastle upon Tyne, Josh'a Hood, Age at Time of Entry in this Ship 32, Qualification Quar Master.

Mark

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First - Your research is impressive Mark - if nothing else.
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George Hood entry to Selby 1812 age 25 to 27(going by his marriage age 28 in 1815 on the bond allegation and death age 60 - 1845) as well educated man, supposedly at first assumption he was an apprentice trained copper, yet? as we know his future in Selby till his death 1845, he had all the hall marks of a business man buying into rundown established businesses to turn them around into a going concern and thus not needing the trade skills of the businesses himself but only as administrator of the businesses he ran seems a logical conclusion. Breweries and barrels go together but tanning is different oddball business which gives thought to this maybe George's trade or George either was educated in a business school or a self taught. (Bit like the 'Woman of substance drama on TV)  If Gibson's bankrupt cooper business was put up for sale in a newspaper where George Hood saw it and which paper circulation coverage where George saw it if known could be a place to look for George's beginnings.

What we know about George Hood is his life had nothing to do with the sea other than travel, maybe his vocation came from his mothers side or a grandparent.

Looking at the sibling run of baptisms of the children of John Hood and Elizabeth Gibson 1779  Newcastle upon tyne fits by dates possible parents of George Hood baptism 1786 Gateshead a child of an unknown future but if its your George with an unknown past before 1812 Selby - George age birth year suggests 1785/7 but unprovable

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Hello

Township Records, Selby Yorkshire DC/SBU/IX/2/4 Account Book 1815 to 1819
Selby, Yorkshire, 'Overseers of Poor' Accounts up to the new Act (1837), only survive from 1815 to 1819. Earlier Account Books end about 1780.

Pensions
John Hood, buried Selby, 4th April 1819 aged 82 years [the Mariner] received 3 shillings per payment at Selby, Yorkshire, as an 'Out Pensioner' from the first surviving Accounts in 1815 to March 1819, when his payments stop part of the way through a payment period (around the time of his burial) and apparently not residing in the Workhouse, being an 'Out Pensioner'.

In the notes which follow the Selby, Yorkshire, payments, it makes reference to Charles Turner receiving 10 shillings 6 pence expenses towards John Hood's Funeral.

Some did receive more than this figure for a funeral in the Accounts.
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George Hood of Selby
Regarding George Hood, the only new snippets in some recently seen paperwork was that:-
a) his occupation was Professional
b) George Hood of Selby sent someone else to negotiate and make the Agreement to Purchase the Wren Lane, Malt Kiln of John Clarkson's of New Port, Eastrington.
c) George Hood promised to make the payment at the Angel Inn, in Howden.
d) George Hood paid a pretty substantial amount (for 1836) of £510 for the very modest small property of Lord Petre.
e) Edward Parker, Solicitor, prepared a large and extensive 49 page Abstract of Title costing £31 - 16s - 9d in Legal Charges, for Hood's property purchase from Petre at Selby that seemed to cost £50.
f) there is an almost complete Title page fragment torn from an old New Testament Bible and on the reverse are some 18th Century Russell dates including Sarah Russell's and also the William Russell to Mary Burton, marriage and date. Rather interestingly it is marked H1 in different thicker ink and have seen marking like this before on exhibit documents returned from Court.
g) before and about 1836 various named individuals had secured Judgements against Petre in the Court of the King's Bench and the Court of Common Pleas. Seen a newspaper reference previously.
h) it would seem Sarah Russell was prohibited from having a Dower and to receive only an annual sum.

More mystery for me!

Mark

Hi All

Commonsense makes one question ? where did George Hood  1786 - 1845 life span - get is money to buy Richard Gibson's bankrupt cooper business from. 1812

Reading this ! This post of Mark's may seems to point to whether  John Hood mariner of Scarborough/late Selby was George's father or not ?

1) Either George Hood could not care (2 hoots) less about is father John Hood of Selby (above)

2) On wealth of George Hood in this post  (£510 mentioned) and Charles Turner (Husband of John Hood's daughter Mauland nee Hood) yet received  10 shillings 6 pence  towards John Hood the mariner of Selby 1819 Ffuneral also in most Wills those days (also today) the deceased left monies to cover the cost of their funeral, if they were fairly comfortably off in wealth. ? If George paid part John Hood's funeral expense - with George's greater wealth  - Question: - why did not George being
 of serious wealth pay all the funeral expense of his father  ?

3) It sounds like John Hood of Selby WAS just above the poor range of going into the workhouse outside pensioner.

4) Did John Hood the mariner leave a Will 1819 IN Selby ?

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Hi All

Commonsense makes one question ? where did George Hood  1786 - 1845 life span - get is money to buy Richard Gibson's bankrupt cooper business from. 1812

Reading this ! This post of Mark's may seems to point to whether  John Hood mariner of Scarborough/late Selby was George's father or not ?

1) Either George Hood could not care (2 hoots) less about is father John Hood of Selby (above)

2) On wealth of George Hood in this post  (£510 mentioned) and Charles Turner (Husband of John Hood's daughter Mauland nee Hood) yet received  10 shillings 6 pence  towards John Hood the mariner of Selby 1819 Ffuneral also in most Wills those days (also today) the deceased left monies to cover the cost of their funeral, if they were fairly comfortably off in wealth. ? If George paid part John Hood's funeral expense - with George's greater wealth  - Question: - why did not George being
 of serious wealth pay all the funeral expense of his father  ?

3) It sounds like John Hood of Selby WAS just above the poor range of going into the workhouse outside pensioner.

4) Did John Hood the mariner leave a Will 1819 IN Selby ?

1. I'm sure most people only pay what is billed.

The Russell family at Selby was huge with numerous links and I wonder if Sarah Russell had some money.

2. There are 10 Petre Deed Memorials at Wakefield that lead up to the 1835 Sale of properties in the Town of Selby.

The rest of the Legal jargon and what else George Hood was buying is unclear.

3. John Hood, Mariner, was an Out Pensioner.

The Trinity House Hull, Muster Rolls showed showed John Hood of Selby, Mariner, had also paid Pension amounts to Trinity House.

4. There was no Will listed, relating to John Hood of Selby, Mariner.

Because Selby had its own Probate Registry Index (at Borthwick on microfilm), we saw that too.

Durham / Northumberland Wills Seen to Date
I can't see any Hood, Wills, in Durham / Northumberland leaving to my George Hood of Selby.

Family Knowledge
My Grandmother mentioned over 50 years ago, Robinson, Morley surnames. Snaith and Beverley were mentioned too.

Seals on Documents
The Seal on George Hood's Will (written by Parker), looks to be the same Seal used on another s/h Deed I purchased signed by Edw Parker.

When George Hood signed with Lord Petre and the Earl of Surrey, the Seals of a person's head were used, all look similar, as though the three parties had used the same Seal, so no clue 

Mark

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Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby



Post reply #627 Friday 16th Aug 24

Second Point

1787 Whitehead's Newcastle Directory, under Gateshead
Hood John, publican, Ship, South Shore.

1789 and 1811 Gateshead Land Tax

We copied and pasted parts of the Gateshead Land Tax, online listings of 1789 and 1811 into a Word document side by side (attached, slide over to see 1811).

1789 Occupied by, John (Mr.) Hood.
1811 Occupied by, A. (Esq.) Hood, South Shore.
[A. Hood, Esq.]

Looks like William Hawks had died by 1811, but premises occupied by Hawks is still clearly marked in 1811.
1811 Occupied by W. (Esq.) (reps. of) Hawks, South Shore.

So John Hood, publican, of The Ship, South Shore, Gateshead, looks to be linked to A. Hood, Esq., by 1811.

Location of the Ship Inn, South Shore, Gateshead, described 1857

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Hi, Mark

This scenario needs a little time more research with others

John Hood the mariner 3 shillings pension per payment seems a far cry from George Hood businessmans £510 property dealing

3 shillings today would be worth around £200 income pension payment

£500 worth around £70,000 today

https://www.in2013dollars.com/uk/inflation/1836?amount=510

As your George appeared in Selby to with money to buy the cooper business 3 years before he married Sarah Russel 1815 unless she knew George before 1812 with enough money to loan him ?

George's wealth, education, business skills you have showed in various posts many times, and the mystery of his trade skills which covered , tanning, brewery, copper but as these skills would need a separate individual apprenticeship ? which seems unlikely to say the least which leaves most likely George Hood of Selby bought into these businesses as an administrator owner with skilled trade labour workforce with the businesses.

Possible wealth

Anthony son of John Hood baptism 31 Oct 1758 Newcastle upon Tyne

and brother

John Hood son of John Hood baptism 20 April 1760 Newcastle upon Tyne
 (Inn Keeper of the Ship South shore Gateshead maybe ) death date unknown post 1787/1789 trade directories

George Hood son of John Hood baptised 1st October 1786 Gateshead.

Anthony Hood aged 51 burial 27th July 1810 Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland

                                                               ^1812 George Hood appears in Selby with big money in his pocket

George hears about Richard Gibson Cooper business Wren lane Selby some how through Richard Gibson own family links to Newcastle upon Tyne by talking (Gossip) word of mouth of the bankruptcy of Richard or newspapers there.  


Update : It would appear Anthony Hood esq Alderman of Newcastle upon Tyne left all his money/estate in his very short Will to his wife 1811/1812