Urney, Strabane Records

[gortrush]

I have found the online NLI Records to be an excellent source of information for baptisms and marriages but unfortunately, they have no records for Urney, Strabane. I have searched GRONI, Ancestry, Family Search but as yet not found the information I seek for the era 1850 - 1890. Can anyone suggest any other possible on-line sources for RC marriages and baptisms for the Urney area please?

[aghadowey]

When you checked NLI site for Urney records did you not click on links at bottom of page to show where records might be available (other than local custody)?
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=1029&parish=Urney

[gortrush]

Yes, but unfortunately no relevant records so looking for any other possible sources.

[aghadowey]

What do you mean by "no relevant records"? the register seems to cover the period you are looking for so do you mean you didn't find the people you were looking for there? if so, try neighbouring parishes

[gortrush]

Yes, the records do cover the period that I am looking for - but not for Urney and yes, I have searched all of the available records on the NLI for Tyrone, Fermanagh, Donegal, Londonderry and parts of Leitrim and Monaghan - and still going! I have also searched gro@groireland.ie as well as GRONI.

[aghadowey]

Seems to be a communication problem here 

You are looking for Urney R.C. records 1850 - 1890. NLI do not have the Urney registers online and say they are in local custody.

If you click on the link I provided it says the following-
Bapt. & marriages from 1866- Local Catholic parish (as above)
Bapt. & marriages 1856 - 1900- Donegal Ancestry (a pay site).

GRONI & GRO will not have church records. What they do have are vital records from the start of civil registration- births & deaths & Catholic marriages from 1864, non-Catholic marriages from 1845.

[Sinann]

Seems to be a communication problem here 

You are looking for Urney R.C. records 1850 - 1890. NLI do not have the Urney registers online and say they are in local custody.

If you click on the link I provided it says the following-
Bapt. & marriages from 1866- Local Catholic parish (as above)
Bapt. & marriages 1856 - 1900- Donegal Ancestry (a pay site).

GRONI & GRO will not have church records. What they do have are vital records from the start of civil registration- births & deaths & Catholic marriages from 1864, non-Catholic marriages from 1845.

But if you go to the RootsIreland sources page things don't quite match up.
http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=centres/ifhf/sources.tpl
No mention of Urney in the RC list but it does say Derry Diocese, which I assume would cover Urney.
It rather confusing.

gortrush are you still looking for the Bonner boys.
I had a quick look at your other threads and you seem to have found some but not all of them.
Perhaps if you listed who you have found and where and who you are still looking for someone may be able to help.

[aghadowey]

Urney R.C. records are on Donegal Ancestry (as earlier link indicates)-
Urney
     Bapt. none
     Marr. 1830-1899
     Burials -1899

Doesn't match up with earlier link but looks like marriages might be held by Donegal Ancestry.

[gortrush]

Thank you for corresponding. Yes still looking for the Bonar/Bonner boys and their parent's details.

I have the following records for the boys:

John Bonar -
Birth Cert. 28-08-1881 (Gallany for Urney) Parents: James Bonar / Lizzie Bonar (Smyth)
Baptismal Cert. 04-09-1881 Parish of Mourne Parents: James Bonar / Eliza Smyth
Married Catherine Stewart Sandeman in Muthill, Perthshire
Death Cert. - (now Bonner) in Perth, Scotland 07-03-1952 Parents stated  James Bonar/Eliza Smyth

Joseph Bonar -
No Birth Cert.?
Baptismal Cert. 10-11-1883 Parish of Mourne Parents: James Bonar / Lizzie Smith
Marriage Cert. 30-01-1913 in Omagh to Elizabeth Donaldson address: Soldier's Barracks, Omagh
Death Cert. 21-05-1957 in Omagh

Charles Bonar -
No Birth or Bapt. Cert.? (DOB believed 1887) Parish of Mourne have no record of Bapt.
Marriage Cert. 11-08-0908 (as Bonner) to Jennie Johnston in Fintona (Church of Ireland) Father listed as James Bonner

William Bonar -
Birth Cert. 30-07-1889 (Ballycolman for Urney) parents: James Bonar / Lizzie Smith
Baptismal Cert. (Bonnar) 03-08-1889 Parish of Mourne. Parents: James Bonar / Lizzie Smith
Died from Wounds in France on 04-11-1914 Buried in Baillieul, France. Military document states from Camus, Strabane. In a 'Soldiers Effects' document I have found re William, it lists his effects being distributed to the above three brothers, plus a further brother James and a 'Half-Brother', Patrick (Smith) neither of whom I have any info on.

John, Joseph, Charles & William all served in WW1 in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. I have their Service Numbers, etc. but the limited available records do not provide any further leads.

I cannot find where the parents were from and hence cannot find birth or marriage certs. for them. I believe they both died in 1890's (James around 1896 and Lizzie around 1894) hence the boys were split up whilst still young.

Sorry for so much info but really keen to get over this 'brick wall'.
Have visited Registry Office at Letterkenny who searched but no joy.
Have searched RootsIreland but no joy.