Jane NINIANSON - What became of her....

[sparrett]

 You have noted this death, in part.
Here is the complete indexing

COLLINS  Ellen
Father NIMENSON  Ringi
Mother UNKNOWN
Age 46
Birth Place S A
Year 1877
Reg Number 1746

The informant thought she was born SA
Sue

[bitzar]

Hi Sparrett

It certainly does doesn't it.  I cant see a John Ninianson family though.

My prob is though is I though I'd be tricky and go from another direction to track my Ellen N but of course it didn't take long for Jamjar and Dundee to work it out...

I have never seen my Ellen N's surname spelt NINIANSON except for on online tree's which I take with a grain of salt.  I have seen NINENSON, NIMENSON, NIVENSON, NINNESON, and RINNESON.  All of these of course could be NINIANSON.  Sort of sounds Scandinavian!

I don't know if Jane belongs to this Wm NINIANSON family but if so she is not on the 1841.  The 1841 does list a Issabella and Elizabeth who could be the other two marrying in Adelaide with father William.

This is a fairly far fetched branch of mine but the name just caught my eye.

bitzar.

bitzar.

[bitzar]

Sparrett

This of course could be true!  She could of been born in SA with no link to NINIANSON.  I couldn't find any further info on SA BDM's to any similar surname in the years after that.

She was in Mt. Gambier in the 1860's and died 1877 prob in, or just north of Horsham.

bitz.

[judb]

Seems to me entirely possible that Jane is the "Janet" in the 1841 census.  I have come across the 'interchangeability' of these names reasonably frequently.  I still have not completely unravelled my father's Scottish aunts - there were three sisters one of whom was a small child who died young, and her name was 're-used' by a later birth.  The names used on certificates were variously Jean, Jane, Janet.  None of the certificates/records exactly matches the birthdates to deaths and to add to the confusion one of them was known in the family as "Auntie Bet" but I don't know which one.  Sadly I have no-one now to ask.   

You probably already have this. 
COLLINS Ellen (Ninneson) and COLLINS William Alfred are listed as being at Horsham cemetery, (along with a number of other COLLINS).  photos are available free from this site.  An MI might just have some further info re Ellen's origin.

http://www.ozgenonline.com/~Carols_Headstones/Horsham.htm

Judith

[Essie]

SA marriage records have ages recorded for the four NIN*SON ladies

Supposedly........
Ellen was 27 in Dec 1858
Jane was 36 in Nov 1861
Elizabeth’s age not recorded in Oct 1876 but was aged 48 in Apr 1891 when she married John JAQUES.
Isabella was 33 in April 1881

Essie

[bitzar]

Judb - The Janet on the 1841 was aged 9months, so unlikely.  I did just find a 'Gean' NINIANSON living with another family on the Shetland's aged 15.

Can you believe I was only at Horsham cemetery a few months ago for my great Aunt's funeral.  Some of the other Collins' are William Alfred's children to his 2nd wife who I am connected with.

Essie - Do you records mention the marriage status of the ladies when they were married?!  Is it possible some were daughters / mother's since Jane was somewhat older than Isabella, between 13-18 years depending on what record you read!

bitzar.

[bitzar]

OK so.... I posted on the Shetland page to see if I could find anything and a lady gave me a link to a Shetland FH site.  A few NINIANSON's but couldn't find anything to do with what we are dealing with...

BUT

remember on Ellen COLLINS nee NI*NSON's DC it read father: NIMENSON Ringi.  I noticed on the Shetland site a Ninian NINIANSON from the 1700's.  I had a look and saw that he was AKA JAMIESON Ringan.  I googled the meaning of the name Ringan and it turns out to be a Scottish name for boys named for St. Ninian, who is thought to have brought Christianity to Scotland in the 5th century. WOW...

I'm not sure what this means but it seems all very coincidental.

bitzar.

[Essie]

Hi Bitzar

"S" meaning single status was recorded for three of the four ladies.
Ellen's status was "N" = not recorded..

Essie

[judb]

oh dear, bitzar I should have looked more carefully re the child's age.

Do you have Ellen's death cert and if so could you snip the bit with his father's name?

May be helpful.

I'm assuming you have the obit for William Alfred COLLINS and his will?

Judith