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Re: Opinions required please on initials.
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 29 September 16 20:24 BST (UK) »
I've just been rotating the image, Frank, so will put it up  ;D
Still not fully convinced that it is a J.

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Re: Opinions required please on initials.
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 29 September 16 21:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget, it's not the neatest thing to look at  ::) but this is where I see the letter J.

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 29 September 16 21:37 BST (UK) »
I see that Frank but it's just the little frond that crosses it at half way point - it could be connected to either the S or the first letter.
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Re: Opinions required please on initials.
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 29 September 16 21:50 BST (UK) »
I see that Frank but it's just the little frond that crosses it at half way point - it could be connected to either the S or the first letter.


Mmm,  :-\  it's six of one and half a dozen of the other I think  :)

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Re: Opinions required please on initials.
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 29 September 16 22:45 BST (UK) »
The letters are most definitely J & S.

No, it's not "most definitely" anything. I still favour F, but it could easily be J or T.

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Re: Opinions required please on initials.
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 29 September 16 22:57 BST (UK) »
From ancient memories of being taught joined-up writing at school, I would say a J would have a closed loop at the top. So I think the initials are IS or TS, not JS.

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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 29 September 16 23:17 BST (UK) »
I think it's FS - that's the way I write capital Fs, having been forced to learn copperplate in primary school in the Iron Age 1950s.  ;D
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« Reply #16 on: Friday 30 September 16 00:01 BST (UK) »
My first thought when seeing this was that the letters were FS.

Then I swayed between the first letter being an I or a J as others suggested this. There are stylistic variations in Copperplate and the engraver obviously had to adapt the letters to be decorative and fit within the shape of the locket. I don't think it's an I or a J because there is no tail for the J and there is no large top loop which you normally see on a copperplate I and J.

I am now torn between it being a T or an F. I am not sure if the central flourish is intentionally there to cross the F, or as part of the general decoration.

An example at the bottom of this page (there are thousands of others on the internet):
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I think it's FS - that's the way I write capital Fs, having been forced to learn copperplate in primary school in the Iron Age 1950s.  ;D

That's the way I write capital Fs too having taught myself copperplate for fun.  ;D

Is it a family locket Frank, and if so can you identify an FS or TS who may have owned it?