Frederic Thomas Stone

[Junglebunny]

I am trying to determine whether there is a link between Frederic Thomas Stone (b1829, d1907) and Charles or James Stone who came to South Africa with the 1820 settlers (Parker's party) on the East Indian. I do not have any parents for Frederic Stone and the dated would tie up with the Stone brothers ages.

[KGarrad]

Welcome to RootsChat!

Where was Frederick born?
There are 11 Frederick Stone's on the 1841 census

[Junglebunny]

I have just found what appears to be his gravestone in Uniondale, SA which says he was born in London on 20 April 1829, and died in Uniondale on 11 Nov 1907.

[lizdb]

London is a big place!

But there is this one, which is a possible. Baptism date would fit nicely with the birth date given.

St George, Hanover Sq
Baptism
23 Aug 1829
Frederick Thomas Stone
parents John and Mary Stone
of Randagh ?  Street
He a servant

[KGarrad]

1851 census has a Frederick Stone as a prisoner in the House of Detention, St James Clerkenwell, Middlesex?
Class: HO107, Piece: 1516, Folio: 409, Page: 48
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGXB-NZ3

And 1841 census a Frederick Stone in the Clergy Orphan School, St Marylebone, Middlesex?
Class: HO107, Book: 14; Piece: 678, Folio: 3, Page: 2
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQJL-HZR

[lizdb]

IF that St Geo baptism is the right person ..

the John and Mary also had (all chr St George Hanover Sq):

William Grafton Ernest
2 Dec 1820

John Edmund
22 Feb 1822

George Henry
chr 12 Jun 1825

Alfred
21 Oct 1827

in each case John is a servant.

[Junglebunny]

Another source has suggested that Frederic's parents were John and Mary, so that fits with the St Geo baptism and other siblings info. As Frederic's first child was born in South Africa in 1859  it seems unlikely that he was in detention in 1851. As the East Indian sailed from Cork and Frederic was born in London it also seems unlikely that Charles and James Stone were related to him.

[Niknak13]

Hi - I have copies of all the baptism certs of the 5 children mentioned in this chat. It is Ranelagh Street...and it is in Pimlico, London...I went there in September this year & walked down that street hoping to find inspiration (fail). We don't know what number in Ranelagh Str they lived which is a pity because it is not a long street. I also wandered past St George Hanover Square church & popped inside but couldn't find anyone to talk to.

[Junglebunny]

Hi Niknak13, do the baptism certificates give dates of birth and is Frederick Thomas 20 April 1829. If so it confirms that this John Stone is definitely the one I am looking for.