Soldier's "permission to marry"

[LizzieL]

I know that Victorian soldiers needed their commanding officers permission if they wanted to get married, but does anyone know if that would have been the case in 1795?

I have found Banns for my ancestors marriage, but no marriage. Both were otp, so I would expect marriage in same church as banns within a week or two of the third reading.
The couple had their first child baptised in the same town 50 weeks after third reading of the banns.

He would have been abt 35 and she would have been abt 19 in 1795 (calculated from stated age at death. He was a corporal when first child baptised, promoted to Sergeant a few years later, so I suspect he had served for several years by 1795.

Could the marriage have been refused, but they decided to live together as man and wife anyway. They had several more children baptised in a variety of places where he served in the Royal Artillery.

[Maggsie]

A name please to search with.
Maggsie

[LizzieL]

Kenneth Fowler

I have other threads on his family, but I thought I'd try from another angle - e.g refusal of permission to marry

[Maggsie]

Hi,
Oh dear, sorry I could only find Muster and Medal records.
Maggsie

[medpat]

Could they have married at her church? The Banns are read at both churches if the couple live in separate parishes or different religions. The ones you found are obviously where he was stationed and so his parish church. After marriage they would live where he was stationed so use this church for the baptism of children.

Having had to ask permission to marry my OH as both serving at the time it was just a courtesy so they knew we were married and could adjust paperwork. The bride would have to ask permission of her father.

 

Edit - if permission was with held he would have been posted away from the area but they stayed together so don't think it was the army.  What about her father stopping it but with children don't think he would and they could marry when she was 21.

[LizzieL]

Could they have married at her church? The Banns are read at both churches if the couple live in separate parishes or different religions. The ones you found are obviously where he was stationed and so his parish church. After marriage they would live where he was stationed so use this church for the baptism of children.

 

They were both OTP, so only one set of Banns. The banns were in Great Yarmouth. Their first child Ann was baptised in the Methodist chapel in GY. All children baptised in Non Conformist chapels of various types.

I have come across  couples who have banns read with no marriage immediately after, then had another set of banns readings sometime later followed by a marriage. Also Banns and no immediate marriage, then a marriage later by licence. So I expect in those cases, there was an objection. I think in one case, the groom hadn't finished his apprenticeship and in the other the bride was under age. My longest delay is a couple who had banns read in 1826, had three children, then got married in 1866.

[medpat]

There's a Kennith (sic) Fowler married Maria Nile 20th Dec 1795 Yarmouth Norfolk

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NX11-6YX

[LizzieL]

There's a Kennith (sic) Fowler married Maria Nile 20th Dec 1795 Yarmouth Norfolk

That's not a marriage - I have the image - it's the Banns record I was referring to.

[medpat]

There's no original paperwork with it so can't tell.