John Garvey

[jnoone]

Hi Dathai
Thanks again to yourself and Sinann for looking at this.Yes it is a bit mysterious I agree with what Dathai  said regarding fictitious names Why would Margaret Nolan not just use her own married name or her maiden name which were much more common.I too have tried to find that address (Castleview Terrace)  without success.

[Sinann]

Fathers usually register the births but looks like the mothers of children born at Margaret's address are doing it. Why? because Daddy wasn't there.

[jnoone]

Hi Sinnann
Not sure if it was usual for the father to register births. If you take the example of the Henry Thomson birth; all of the other births on the page are registered by the childs mother.I think 17 Portland Place was being used as a kind of unofficial nursing home for unmarried mothers.The thing about this is I can find little or no information on either the fathers or mothers.Margaret Pigotts parents were given as  Laurence and Mary Curtis.I can only find one Laurence Pigott living in Dublin at the time and he does not look correct  and I can find no trace of the mother Emily Curtis.

[hasta]

A few bits from newspapers. There are loads of adverts between about 1905 and 1917 reading:
Patients received into nurses home, attended during confinement. Terms Moderate. Nurse nolan, 17 Portland Place.
Also Wednesday 22 August 1906 Ellen McDonnell gave evidence into the death of 2 year months old Mary Kavanagh "a nurse child" who died the previous Monday. She says the mother of the child gave birth at her house and the child was healthy. Later Ellen McDonnell had answered a newspaper advert placed by a woman named HILL of 41 Patrick street who was looking for a child to nurse or adopt. The mother and McDonnell decided to place the baby with Mrs Hill for 1 month and the mother paid 14s. later Mrs Hill said the child was doing "splendidly" and the mother decided to pay a further £6 for the adoption. The inquest found that the child had died of natural causes.
also Ellen McDonnell (widow of John McDonnell of Leinster St) died 1924

edited to correct age of Mary Kavanagh

[Sinann]

Well that put the speculation to rest.
I guess the question now is are the fathers' names made up, or made up in some cases, are the mothers' name correct, or correct in some cases?

There is a Maud Lee aged 13 in Cork in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Youghal_Urban/North_Main_Street/1161220/
is this Maud Thompson 23 from Cork in 1911.

[hasta]

Birth of the child Mary Kavanagh at 17 Portland Place. Father is named and then crossed out (John Walsh)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/b08d922704214

[jnoone]

Hi
Again thanks.A few things have been cleared up.I now  know its going to be very difficult to find the parents of Margaret Pigott.Hasta may I ask where you sourced the newspaper records.Its something I would like to look at myself.
John

[hasta]

Hi John
The newspaper records were from https://www.irishnewsarchive.com which is a subscription site. Do you have Margaret Pigott's marriage cert - wondering what she knew about her parentage.

[jnoone]

Hi
Thanks Hasta I will subscribe to that site.Margaret Pigott left Ireland for Australia in 1925.She returned to Dublin in 1931 She married in1937.Her fathers name given as Lawrence Pigott,Occupation Teacher .Witnesses to the marriage were two members of her husbands family.