John Garvey

[jnoone]

Hi
I am trying to research the following John Garvey aged 6 living at 17 Portland Place on the 1911 census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rotunda/Portland_Place_North/32430/
I have found a birth which for him 12th January 1905 Which gives his parents as John Garvey and Mary Nulty.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/395e623175750
I am trying to find a marriage for the parents I cannot find them on either census and as they are not on the 1911 census with their son I have been looking for death records for them.Any ideas ?

[dathai]

Hi, like yourself i cant find anything on the parents,have you tried tracing his two aunts?
Ellen McDonnell and Margaret Nolan.
Margaret was married to Thomas Nolan a D M P policeman from Celbridge Kildare .
Thomas died 1903 at Portland Place
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05672/4597541
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Arran_Quay/Kirwan_Street/1335056/

[Sinann]

I was having a go at this as well, I think Margaret may be Margaret Brown.
This marriage of Thomas Brown is a policeman but I can't make out what she is.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10884/5975113

I can't find a birth for the Pigott girl.

I'd be a bit suspect that she is in fact the children's aunt.

[jnoone]

Hi Dathai
Thanks.I d'ont think Margaret Nolan/ Ellen Mc Donnell were real aunts .If they were would it not be right to assume their maiden name would be either Nulty or Garvey.Also my main interest in this is the child named Margaret Pigott also on the 1911 census.She was the grand mother of a cousin of mine.I have found a baptism for her but no civil record. That baptism gives her parents as Laurence Pigott and Emily Curtis and again I can find no trace of them.Because of this I have started researching the other people listed on the census return.
Thomas Nolan married his wife in1885. Her maiden name was Browne
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/a8a9760041069.
Margaret and her sister were born in Castledermot Co. Kildare and I have seen baptisms for them
Do you think that it is possible Margaret Nolan was taking in abandoned children (this might sound far fetched) and registering them under false names.
Regards John

[Sinann]

Do you think that it is possible Margaret Nolan was taking in abandoned children (this might sound far fetched) and registering them under false names.
Regards John

I was thinking alone the same lines. She is in the right job to come into contact with mothers in trouble.
John was born in her house, is there an address on Margaret Mary's baptism?

[dathai]

Not so much far fetched but i think women who took in abandoned or unwanted illigitimate children got a small fee for looking after them so i dont see any point in her registering them in fictitious names.
Re Margaret Pigots baptism any sponsors ?

[dathai]

Nolan/Browne marriage 1885
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/a8a9760041069

i believe from the civil cert Margaret was a Milliner

[jnoone]

Hi
The baptism gives Margarets address as 17 Portland Place.Baptism took place in St Agathas Church North William St.One sponsor Margaret Nolan same address.I have also looked at the other child on the census return Henry Thomson

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01530/1620297
Parents Robert Thomson and Maud Lee Again I can find no marriage record anywhere for this couple.

[dathai]

cant find Castleview Terrace either   all very sussy