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Shortt family
« on: Friday 16 September 16 11:40 BST (UK) »
Good morning, I may have asked this before a couple of years ago and apologies if I have.

I am looking for any information on the Shortt family who lived in Birmingham around the 1940's.

My grandmother was born Rosina Shortt in Ireland to Patrick Shortt & ?

At some point she arrived in Birmingham, last know address for Rosina I have, as written on her marriage certificate is (1942) : 82 Cliff Rock Road, Northfield, Birmingham. Her father is down as deceased. We have heard rumours she had a brother (possibly also called Patrick) who lived in Birmingham also.

Rosina died in 1945 aged 27 when my dad was 18mths old and he would love to know if he has any other family.

Any info appreciated.
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Re: Shortt family
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 September 16 16:39 BST (UK) »
Info so far is that in 1945 they are living at 47 Alfred St. Sparkbrook.
In the same house is a Mary Fellows & Richard Burton.
In 1955 he's still there with second wife. There doesn't appear to be any children from this couple so no half siblings.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Shortt family
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 September 16 16:49 BST (UK) »
Do the witnesses to Rosina's wedding give any clues
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Re: Shortt family
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 September 16 16:56 BST (UK) »
Can see only 1 Patrick in B'ham. Patrick J Shortt first appears in 1945. In 1950 he's living with Doris Shortt at 112 Cleeve Rd. Hall Green B'ham. Still there in 1955.
Patrick died in 1974 giving a DOB of 1904.
Doris died in 1982 giving a DOB of 1905.
Can't see a marriage for them or any children.
At present I'm not sure this is the right Patrick.
Patrick married Doris Ulett in 1935.
They had 2 daughters & a son. Can't name them as they are probably still living.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/


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Re: Shortt family
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 September 16 19:51 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much Jim1 & rosie99.

Rosie99 - Witnesses hold no clues

Jim1 - Thank you for the "Patrick", could possibly be some relation, I, like you are unsure, only because the birth is 1904 and Rosina was born 1919, although she may be the youngest of several!!

Second marriage & third!!! of granddad Roughton produced more children but dad was more interested in the Shortt side as he only has one picture of his mum taken a few weeks before she died. He keeps hoping I find someone who may be related to him via that side.

Thank you so much
Trinder - Gloucs / London (West Ham, Poplar)
Aldridge/Alldridge - London (West Ham, Canning Town)
Turnbull (SCT:Fife, LON:West Ham, Poplar)
Andrews (Devon: London, West Ham etc)
Oswald (SCT: )
Proudfoot (SCT)
Joseph (Carmarthanshire / Brecon)
Price (Brecon)
Watkins (Brecon)

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Re: Shortt family
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 September 16 20:23 BST (UK) »
The only way to find out is to get Patrick's marriage cert.
Marriages Sep 1935
Shortt  Patrick J Birmingham  6d 1717
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/