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Re: Paying for passage from Scotland to NZ
« Reply #9 on: Monday 19 September 16 09:32 BST (UK) »
Quote from: glenview
So if anyone has information about a George Adam or possibly Adams who would probably be a farmer in Canterbury area...

Hello Mary...

Do you know the age of George ADAM as there is a 24 year old by that name from Stirling who arrives in Lyttelton in early 1860.

Passenger list for the Roman Emperor
http://tinyurl.com/jr8p52l


Just going by age he may be the 71 year old who dies 18 Jan 1906 and is buried in Addington.

Burial record
http://tinyurl.com/z688smh

Probate file
http://tinyurl.com/z2e8wan

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Beg

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Re: Paying for passage from Scotland to NZ
« Reply #10 on: Monday 19 September 16 10:01 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much Beg

That gives me something to work on. I am away from Wifi in a holiday cottage this week unless I get out and about as I am this morning. When I get home at the weekend I can check Scottish births.

I don't know if you would be interested in the outcome. I will let you know and if it turns out to be a dead end and I would be grateful if you would continue a conversation on other possibilities.

Thank you again
Mary
Muirhead St Ninians; Morrison, Muthil; Ferguson and Kerr, Argyll

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Re: Paying for passage from Scotland to NZ
« Reply #11 on: Monday 19 September 16 10:11 BST (UK) »
Hello Mary

Beg was a step ahead of me with posting information ... but my findings were the same.  ;)

I have already checked the Scotland census of 1841 and it seems most likely that this George ADAM was the younger brother of Margaret (MUIRHEAD)  (bc 1816).

I'll put a transcription of 1841 in a following post.

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« Reply #12 on: Monday 19 September 16 10:22 BST (UK) »
1841 - SCOTLAND

Bridgend > St. Ninians > Stirlingshire

ADAM

John - 70
Elizabeth - 45
John - 20
Margaret - 25 (bc 1816)
Mary - 15
James - 10
Christian - (female) - 8
George - 6 - (bc 1835)
      ... all born Stirlingshire (except Elizabeth, where it just states "Scotland').

+  James CAMPBELL - 40

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Re: Paying for passage from Scotland to NZ
« Reply #13 on: Monday 19 September 16 10:59 BST (UK) »
It was great to read about the fact that the ship was a spacious one and know that their passage may have been reasonable in the long confinement aboard. Agricultural families at sea; how must that have been for them!

They may not have all been agricultural labourers.   One forebear of ours is recorded as a gardener on the manifest.   All records before and after do not state that he is a gardener, but I suppose he thought it would increase his chances of being accepted.

I'm not sure how they would prove that they were of good character.  His wife had been sentenced to four months in prison in her teens.

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« Reply #14 on: Monday 19 September 16 10:59 BST (UK) »
NZ - PapersPast :

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19060119.2.2.2

^   Death Notice for George ADAM appeared in the "Press" (Christchurch).

The last part of notice is missing on above link - but it goes on to say ..."in his seventy-second year".

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« Reply #15 on: Monday 19 September 16 11:25 BST (UK) »
George ADAM married Jane THOMPSON in 1862 (according to one source, on 21 December 1862  at the St Andrew's Church, Christchurch.)

They had a very large number of children (some of whom I located via electoral rolls and other resources) ... but have since checked for online "family trees" and there are a number of persons who have compiled trees which are posted on the ancestry.com website.  [Info for these trees varies - some have conflicting information ... and none really give sources, other than quoting links to indexes.]

One tree though does have >
  George ADAM - born St. Ninians, Stirlingshire - 12 December - 1834.
   ???

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Re: Paying for passage from Scotland to NZ
« Reply #16 on: Monday 19 September 16 11:51 BST (UK) »
Jane ADAM (wife of George ADAM) died on 16 August 1922 - aged 79 years.

She is buried with George at Addington Cemetery, Christchurch (indexed as surname "ADAMS").

Her death notice >

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19220818.2.4.

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Re: Paying for passage from Scotland to NZ
« Reply #17 on: Monday 19 September 16 12:18 BST (UK) »
The MUIRHEADs and George ADAM (and his family), lived only a matter of about 5 miles apart at Templeton and Prebbleton.
All the electoral roll listings for George ADAM show his occupation as "Labourer". 

Having scoured NZ records (particularly newspapers) I found nothing to connect the MUIRHEAD and ADAM families.  Often times newspapers give up information which provide connections ... but perhaps it needs to be considered that there was a big age gap between the children of these two families (i.e. George ADAM's children didn't begin arriving until the early 1860's ).  ???

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