children of Kelly/Duffy

[Maggsie]

Ok, I have just found the records in Ancestry.
They are duplicated. 2 sites have been entered into Ancestry at different times.
Any way here are the records
Maggsie

Mary Kelly
 in the Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name:   Mary Kelly
Gender:   Female
Birth Date:   12 May 1865
Birth Place:   Monaghan, Ireland
Father:   Patrick Kelly

Mother:   Elizabeth Duffy

FHL Film Number:   101105
Mary Kelly
 in the Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
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Name:   Mary Kelly
Gender:   Female
Birth Date:   12 May 1865
Birth Place:   Ballibay, Mon, Ireland
Baptism Place:   Ballibay, Mon, Ireland
Father:   Patrick Kelly

Mother:   Elizabeth Duffy

FHL Film Number:   101105
Patrick Kelly
 in the Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name:   Patrick Kelly
Gender:   Male
Birth Date:   8 Jun 1871
Birth Place:   Ballybay, Mon, Ireland
Baptism Place:   Ballybay, Mon, Ireland
Father:   Patrick Kelly

Mother:   Betty Duffy

FHL Film Number:   255818
Patrick Kelly
 in the Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name:   Patrick Kelly
Gender:   Male
Birth Date:   8 Jun 1871
Birth Place:   Monaghan, Ireland
Father:   Patrick Kelly

Mother:   Betty Duffy

FHL Film Number:   255818

[hallmark]

You have come up with six possibilities - George October 1864
Mary May 1865 (bit too close?)
Sarah May 1867
Ellen August 1867  (problem here!)
Patrick June 1871
Elizabeth April 1880

So search the newly released Civil Reg stuff, see what details there are for those after 1865

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So are the above dates Births or Baptisms?

[Maggsie]

If you go to the registers.nli.ie and find the Parish you will see the entries.
Not all images are in Ancestry.
Maggsie

[Sinann]

Ah great it's back.
Start you off
George 4 Oct 1864
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632809#page/26/mode/1up

[hallmark]

Hi Maggsie, what you sent me previously were the church baptism records for four of the children. Do you have the baptisms for Mary (1865) and Patrick (1871) just to complete the six?  I already have the civil registration printouts.   thanks.

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if you are working with Baptism dates then allow for the age of each child..

[nbrome]

Thanks Sinann, George is my grandfather so that was a good one to start off on!
Hallmark, yes my first list was civil registration dates.  Thanks to Sinann, I now know that George was actually born on October 4th and not 10th. 
The next one along is Mary who was registered on May 12th 1865. I can't find her in the parish registers but in any case she must have been baptised before May 12th.  That's only 7 months after George was born.
I'm putting a link here to Mary's civil registration, mainly to ask people what they think the placename is - Drum something or other.
I'm also shrinking the link, is that the right thing to do or can I just put original links?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01igo/

[nbrome]

I think I may be onto a glimmer of light here.  I think there were two couples with the same names. That's based mainly on the fact that Sarah and Ellen appear to be born both in the same year only 4 months apart (although I must admit I haven't seen their baptism records).
Trolling through deaths for Patrick and Elizabeth I have one for a Patrick Kelly died 1902, present at death was daughter Ellen, the place something like 'Ednanea'.
On the 1901 census I have found him with daughter Ellen and 'sister' Ellen Duffy in Edeneaneane, Ballybay.
This only means there were two different families. On with the hunt.

[hallmark]

Well that is progress in itself....

[nbrome]

Ok, I'm here again and getting really frustrated over this.
I have now printed out all the civil registrations for these six Kelly children. I have also found the baptism records for three of them.
I can't for the life of me find the other three in Baptism records though. I'm really fed up with myself, but I think I'm going to damage my eyesight if I don't give it a break.
So if anyone has the time and patience to have a look at these and tell me where their baptisms are I would be eternally grateful.

Mary Kelly
civil reg 12 May 1865 Castleblaney, district Ballibay

Patrick Kelly
civil reg 8 June 1871  Castleblaney, district Ballibay

Elizabeth Kelly
civil reg 22 April 1880 Castleblayney, district Crossmaglen 'Counties of Armagh and Monaghan'

(even one of them would be a help!)    thanks a lot.