children of Kelly/Duffy

[dathai]

mother is called Betty in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Monaghan/Church_Hill/Drumore/1630279/

[hallmark]

Hi I have looked at several sites.
You will have to pull all these together.
George, on his Baptism record it says Birth date 4th October 1864.
In the civil register book it says date of birth 10th October 1864.
I will send the Baptism info of George, Sarah, Ellen and Elizabeth via PM.
On some it doesn't state Elizabeth's maiden name, but the address is still the same.
I will see if I can find the other 2 names.
I often wondered what an "Irish Twin" was, they are born in the same year but 9 months or so between them. Twins usually have "Twin to and the other name entered on each of the records"
Maggsie

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Sending everything by PM cuts everyone else out that is trying to help!!

How are we supposed to know what has been found?  not found??

[Sinann]

I was going to say look at the parish register and see if any of the births were registered late.
Birth dates on birth Certs are often later than the baptism....but the site is offline at the moment.

[Maggsie]

The records
Maggsie

Church Baptism Record
Name:   George Kelly   Date of Birth:   04-Oct-1864
        Date of Baptism:   0not liste
Address:   [no Location]   Parish/District:   Muckno (Castleblayney)
Gender:    M   County   Co. Monaghan
      Denomination:   [not Listed]

Father:   Patrick Kelly   Mother:   Elizabeth Kelly
Occupation:   [not Listed]       [not Listed]

Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:   [not Listed] [not Listed]
[not Listed]    Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:   [not Listed] [not Listed]

   Notes:
   no. m/f. Celebrant: John Kelly.


Church Baptism Record
Name:   Sarah Kelly   Date of Birth:   19-May-1867
        Date of Baptism:   0not liste
Address:   Drumakill   Parish/District:   Muckno (Castleblayney)
Gender:    F   County   Co. Monaghan
      Denomination:   [not Listed]

Father:   Patrick Kelly   Mother:   Elizabeth Duffy
Occupation:   [not Listed]       [not Listed]

Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:   [not Listed] [not Listed]
[not Listed]    Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:   [not Listed] [not Listed]

   Notes:
   no. m/f. Celebrant: Bernard Duffy.

Church Baptism Record
Name:   Ellen Kelly   Date of Birth:   01-Aug-1867
        Date of Baptism:   
Address:   Balladian   Parish/District:   TULLYCORBET (Ballybay)
Gender:       County   Co. Monaghan
      Denomination:   Roman Catholic

Father:   Patrick Kelly   Mother:   Elizabeth Duffy
Occupation:         

Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:   Philip Duffy    Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:   Ellen Mulligan

   Notes:


Church Baptism Record
Name:   Elizabeth Kelly   Date of Birth:   0not liste
        Date of Baptism:   17-Apr-1880
Address:   Drummond   Parish/District:   Muckno (Castleblayney)
Gender:    F   County   Co. Monaghan
      Denomination:   [not Listed]

Father:   Patrick Kelly   Mother:   Elizabeth Duffy
Occupation:   [not Listed]       [not Listed]

Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:   [not Listed] [not Listed]
[not Listed]    Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:   [not Listed] [not Listed]

   Notes:
   no. 690. Celebrant: Peter Birmingham.

[nbrome]

Thank you all so much.
Thank you also Maggsie for taking the time to lay all that out  - do you have the baptism info for Mary too, just to complete the six?

Yes, I've been trying to piece something together from death records this morning, as dathai has suggested.  I suppose I'm looking for another couple called Patrick and Elizabeth Duffy, as I don't think all these children here can be theirs, even though they said they had six.

While Mary could conceivably (sorry about that!) have been born 7 months after George, allowing for late registration,  there is no way Sarah could have been born in May 1867 and Ellen in August 1867.

A long time ago I searched for a marriage between Patrick and Elizabeth on the Roots site and came up with only one in that area in 1855, too early probably for my research. But it's also true that a lot of Monaghan records are not on that site.   In view of that, it's possible that there were other children born to P and E before the 1864 cutoff.   

[Sinann]

Look at the parish, all but one are in the same parish so more likely to be the same family, if they are the family you want or not is a different story.
Free Parish Registers still off line so can't even check what available to search at the moment.

[Maggsie]

Hi, nbrome

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03301/2209582

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03576/2318115

the records
Maggsie

[Maggsie]

I checked 4 sites for the marriage, not listed sorry.
Maggsie

[nbrome]

Hi Maggsie, what you sent me previously were the church baptism records for four of the children. Do you have the baptisms for Mary (1865) and Patrick (1871) just to complete the six?  I already have the civil registration printouts.   thanks.