Talor - Stretton on Dunsmore

[kiwianna]

Hitting a brick wall on my Taylor's

I have Deborah Taylor b Stretton on Dunsmore 1849 parents George Taylor (1818-1855 and Eliza Sheasby (1822 remarried to William Webster on death of George)
George has parents of James Taylor & Sarah Johnson (Baptism 1818 lists parents)
James and Sarah married 16/4/1812 Stretton on Dunsmore (banns appear to show him as  widowed) birth in approx 1771. I have them both on census in 1841
While I've managed to find Sarah's parents and siblings and can move this line backwards and sideways I am stuck when it comes to John. I find no first marriage nor birth so far and getting frustrated as I can't move this any further back. A witness of William Taylor on the banns implies a brother??
Any suggestions?
Many thanks
Anna

[BumbleB]

Banns were called at Stretton on Dunsmore in October 1802 between James Taylor of this parish and Mary Russell of the parish of Weston.  The marriage took place at Weston under Wetherley on 9 November 1802.

[jim1]

There appears to be just one child form this marriage:
Sarah Taylor
Born 13/7/1804
Bapt. 2/9/1804
At Stretton.
Parents James & Mary Taylor of Stretton.
Possible birth: Stretton
James Taylor Bapt. 10/5/1778 mother Elizabeth Yarrow(n) ?

One for the back burner.
In Stretton there's a Bapt. of Thomas Yarrow 1771 parents William & Elizabeth with a death a year later of a William Yarrow.
1779 Stretton Elizabeth Yarrow marries John Marriot.
Found just 1 child Bapt. Stretton in 1783 Hannah Marriot to John & Elizabeth.

How sure are you the 1841 census is them?
Are they the family living in St. George's B'ham?

[kiwianna]

Thank you both for looking
Seems the 1841 census is incorrect as is the birth year of James. Some more research has found the second wife's (Sarah)death which led me to the family grave and the birth and death date of James (b 1771 and d 1838). As their son George (my line) is also in the family grave and other siblings I can confirm that as correct
Once the Mary Russell(Russel)marriage was given I too tracked down the birth of a daughter Sarah. As yet i haven't found a death for Mary (seems between 1804 and 1812 would be the likely time frame) and nor can I find any more about daughter Sarah.
While this new information has given me some information I still haven't been able to move back further on James (I believe he may have a brother William as a William Taylor was witness at Banns)
I have found a couple of potential births in Saint Phillips for James but not got any further on them to date.

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
The burials for Stretton on line have the following
James Taylor age 61 buried 21.3.1838
Sarah Taylor age 70 buried 8.4.1857.
I've looked at the images and they seem the right couple so that baptism does fit in 1778.
William Taylor seems to be the child of Edward and Mary bapt 9.12.1792 I don't know how he fits it but a possibility is that Edward Taylor  was the father of both men.

ps now found Edward Taylor 's and Mary's marriage at Cubbington 13,6,1789 both of this parish her maiden name was Mary Johnson.Wit Ricgard Gibbs and John Judd.
It turns out Mary Johnson bapt 22.1.1772 at Stretton on Dunsmore is Sarah's older sister.

Ciderdrinker

[ciderdrinker]

Extra daughters for John and Elizabeth Marriott
Elizabeth 13.4.1780 Stretton on dunsmore
Sarah 3.2.1787 Marton and Birdington
And it looks like John Marriot Senior remarried at M and B 4.3.1788 to Esther Price of Ladbrooke
and John junior 19.2.1788 to Mary Mills

Ciderdrinker

[kiwianna]

That was the online grave information I also found and as the right George was mentioned there  it definitely appears to be the right dates.
A bit of searching around and I don't think Edward is the father or the brother but may well be a cousin? I think I have potential parents for him of Richard & Elizabeth and a potential birth in Rowington but no sibling James
Family search online gives potential parents of James Taylor as:
1. 22 Apr 1777 SAINT PHILLIPS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND - John Taylor &  Martha
2.16 Jan 1778 SAINT PHILLIPS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND - Richard Taylor & Mary (also had son William 1770)
3. 15 Aug 1778 St. Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England - James Taylor & Ann Taylor

As Richard & Mary's younger children were born in Rowington this may fit as I believe that's closer to Street on Dunsmore than what St Phillip would have been? This could have accounted for a move closer to where James married firstly Mary Russell and secondly Sarah Johnson. If Edward above was born in Rowington then they could well be related somewhere along the line

One christened 177 with parents Samuel & Susannah also has a death of 1778

[jim1]

Possible birth: Stretton
James Taylor Bapt. 10/5/1778 mother Elizabeth Yarrow

Why have you ruled out this James Taylor?

[kiwianna]

Hi
No I haven't ruled that one out, am trying to work thru if that fits in. It certainly does date and locationwise.

It looks like that one was born out of marriage if father was Taylor as no marriage between Elizabeth Yarrow and a Taylor that I can see? Marriage to John Marriot was a year later and subsequent children were Marriot it appears.

Not having much luck seeing if any of the options fit in at the moment