Same people or different?

[Stuart273]

Hi all.

In the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index in the 4th quarter of 1845 there are the following entries:

Helps Sarah      Bath              xi   12
Helps Sarah      Chippenham  viii  283
Helps Thomas   Chippenham  viii  286             
Helps Thomas   Bath              xi   13

There is one Helps entry between lines 2 and 3 of a different person, but I'm not interested in that one.
The question is are these 4 different people or two people entered twice in different areas? My guess would be the latter (too much of a coincidence otherwise?) but I would appreciate the view of more experienced people than I please.

Thanks
Stuart

[CaroleW]

Have you checked for 1851 entries for each of them?  You will find 2 different entries for Sarah - one b Corsham Wilts (Chippenham RD) and the other b Weston Somerset (Bath RD)

The Somerset entry has an older brother Thomas b 1843 but the Wiltshire entry doesn't

[KGarrad]

For the Bath registered births:

Sarah Helps, Mother's maiden name: Thom, at Batheaston
Thomas Helps, Mother's maiden name: <None>, at Batheaston

From BathBMD.org.uk

[chempat]

If looking for Thomas in 1851, this might be a death for one or both of them, or unrelated, as no age at that time recorded:

Deaths March quarter 1847 
Thomas Helps     Chippenham   8  284

[curtisd]

From GRO online ordering:

HELPS, THOMAS Maiden name not displayed.
GRO Reference: 1845  D Quarter in BATH  Volume 11  Page 13

HELPS, THOMAS        Maiden name HENDEN
GRO Reference: 1845  D Quarter in CHIPPENHAM  Volume 08  Page 286


HELPS, SARAH        Mother Maiden name THORN 
GRO Reference: 1845  D Quarter in BATH  Volume 11  Page 12


HELPS, SARAH        Mother Maiden name CREASE
GRO Reference: 1845  D Quarter in CHIPPENHAM  Volume 08  Page 283

There is another Sarah HELPS. HELPS, SARAH  ANN      -      Order
GRO Reference: 1845  D Quarter in OF DEVIZES IN THE COUNTY OF WILTS  Volume 08  Page 308

[philipsearching]

If looking for Thomas in 1851, this might be a death for one or both of them, or unrelated, as no age at that time recorded:

Deaths March quarter 1847 
Thomas Helps     Chippenham   8  284

The GRO index has his age as 1.
This would suggest he is probably the Thomas born Dec qtr 1845 in Chippenham.

Philip

[StevieSteve]

The moral of all this being there's no such thing as "too much of a coincidence" in this game

[jrc11]

From Wilts BMD. Surname Helps. Mother Crease:
1840 Elizabeth
1843 Edward
1845 Sarah
1848 Eliza
1851 John
No others for Henden but in 1842 Jane Helps, mother Hendy.
All births in Corsham sub district of Chippenham

[rosie99]

Let us hope that Stuart who posted this query in September 2016 will return to the post sometime