HARGRAVE - circa 1850

[KaylaHargrave]

It's a long shot but I am looking for anyone who may be linked with my ancestors in Australia.

The story goes that my G-G-G Grandfather John Francis Henry Hargrave travelled from England to Australia around 1850 with his brother.
His brother then went on to New Zealand while my ancestor remained in Australia.
On John's death certificate it states his fathers name is John- though on his marriage certificate it states his fathers name was James.
His mothers name was Mary/ Matilda Dixon.

I know its a bit vague, but i thought someone may recognise the names from their own records. Thanks,
Kayla

[Milliepede]

Hello

How old was John when he died?  That will give an approximate birth year.  If he was in England till around 1850 he should be on the 1841 census here. 

Do you know his brothers first name?

[KaylaHargrave]

There are variations depending on who you talk to.
His headstone said he was 85 when he died on 25/01/1915
His Obit on the other hand states he was 78.

And i have varying birth years from 1830-1835.
His death cert says he was born in Suffolk. However I have also seen it recorded as manchester.
( I really hate this guy)
As for his brothers name, depending on who you talk to in the family his name was either James or William.
I'm so sorry I'm not being even remotely helpful.

[Milliepede]

That's ok.  1830-35 gives an age to look for him in 1841 as does the birthplace(s) 

Will see if any likely candidates show up.

[trish1120]

Familysearch has a James HARGREAVES/Mary DIXON Marriage 29 Oct 1827 Padiham, Lancashire

[Milliepede]

There's a Hargrave family in Blackburn Lancs in 1841 with a John, James and William (10, 15 and but head is Moses 45 and Alice 45 who likely are the parents. 

[trish1120]

The 1827 Marriage is on LancsOPC, both of Higham Chapelry


1851 Census
Chorley, Lancashire
HO107/2263/302/26
James Hargraves, 46, Head, Mar, Piece Looker, born Higham
Mary Hargraves, 40, Wife, Mar, born Barrcrofoot (Barrow Form Booth in 1861)
Susannah Hargraves 23, Daug, born Higham Stockport, Lancashire 
Elizabeth Hargraves, 10, Daug, born Stockport, Lancashire   (1861 has Stockport, Cheshire)
Joseph Hargraves, 8, Son, born Chorley
Grenn Hargraves, 4, Daug, born Chorley
George Hargraves, 1, Son, born Chorley

1861 Census Grenn is ANN
James is a Bookkeeper at Bleach Works
All the Children are still in the Cotton industry

1871 James HARGRAVES born c 1805 Higham is Widowed, Son Joseph is with him and a Neice Alice

Having trouble finding them 1841. Large gap for other Children between Susannah 1828 and Elizabeth 1841.

[trish1120]

1841 Census
HO107/525/5/Chorley
James Hargreaves, 35, Piece Looker
Mary Hargreaves, 30, Weaver
Sarah Hargreaves, 13, ?
JOHN Hargreaves, 9, Calico Printer Apprentice
James Hargreaves, 5
Elizabeth Hargreaves, 1

Hi Kayla,
On the Certs you have what Occps do you have for John and his Father?

[KaylaHargrave]

Hi Trish,
           On his marriage cert it says his father was an "engineer" and on his death cert it says "mechanic"