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Re: john paulin
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 25 August 16 08:28 BST (UK) »
The only information I have about John is that he was christened c1815 at Limehouse London and was the son of George Paulin and Elizabeth Raymond. he is not on the 1841 census .He had 4 brothers who came to Melbourne in the 1850s.in a letter I received from a cousin some years ago, she said his brother William went to new Zealand and stayed with him during 1865 and 1869 somewhere near Wellington. I don't know if he married. Where would I look for early new Zealand marriages please. Family also said that John was a seaman but no one knew anything about his life.
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 25 August 16 09:02 BST (UK) »
New Zealand BDM website......

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: john paulin
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 25 August 16 09:40 BST (UK) »
Something else to check on, a reference in a tree on Ancestry to their marriage.

Will need to be verified though, as no document, but the marriage is stated to have taken place in Sydney, March 8th 1841.  Australian Registration No. V184114

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FLEMING,   Ireland
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Re: john paulin
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 25 August 16 09:56 BST (UK) »
There is a John Paulin in the Britain, merchant seamen, 1835-1857 aged 22 birth year 1813,London

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Re: john paulin
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 25 August 16 10:01 BST (UK) »
There is also a John Paulin in the FindMyPast Victoria Prison Register but at present an error is coming up when I try to open the document

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Re: john paulin
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 25 August 16 10:04 BST (UK) »
The only information I have about John is that he was christened c1815 at Limehouse London and was the son of George Paulin and Elizabeth Raymond. he is not on the 1841 census .He had 4 brothers who came to Melbourne in the 1850s.in a letter I received from a cousin some years ago, she said his brother William went to new Zealand and stayed with him during 1865 and 1869 somewhere near Wellington. I don't know if he married. Where would I look for early new Zealand marriages please. Family also said that John was a seaman but no one knew anything about his life.
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Kevynne

Kevynne, I have just located another tree on Ancestry which seems to be well researched, sourced, and has John Paulin as the son of George Paulin & Elizabeth Raymond, and other family info.

I would be quite happy to private message the tree owner and ask if it's OK for you to contact her re your family!   

If you would like to try this, you could pm me your email address, and I can send it to the tree owner. Happy to do that.

Just looking at that tree again, there's even a headstone photo.  Wish I could find a relative like this! 
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FLEMING,   Ireland
DUNNELL,  England
PAULSON,  England
DOUGLAS, Scotland, Ireland, NZ
WALKER,   Scotland
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Re: john paulin
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 25 August 16 12:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Kevynne

Further to my earlier post re: John PAULIN (and wife Ann STEVENS), I'd found a considerable number of additional trees at the ancestry.com site. [Most appear to contain "shared" information.]

As Jeanne has also mentioned, one of the "PAULIN" trees appears to be well-researched (at least it gives some sources of information).    A "copy" of the 1841 (NSW) PAULIN/STEVENS Marriage certificate gives only brief details of the couple - and doesn't even show the groom's occupation ??
A note on the tree states : "Family archives say John listed as a butcher - Ann as a spinster".
An earlier note for the year 1838 again mentions "family archives advise that John was employed as a whaler in Otago in about 1838".   In the year 1841, John PAULIN is said to have arrived in Sydney from England, on the vessel "Alfred".   [Checked several resources and he doesn't appear to have been an unassisted or assisted immigrant to NSW ... possibly a crew member though nothing found to confirm this.]

The headstone photo (mentioned in Jeanne's post), is probably the one erected at Riverton Cemetery (Southland) following a family reunion for the STEVENS / PAULIN  (and I think - HOWELL) families.

It seems to confirm that this John PAULIN died in New Zealand in 1860 aged 44 years, and that his parents were "George PAULIN and Elizabeth RAYMOND".

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Re: john paulin
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 25 August 16 13:21 BST (UK) »

....in a letter I received from a cousin some years ago, she said his brother William went to new Zealand and stayed with him during 1865 and 1869 somewhere near Wellington. I don't know if he married. Where would I look for early new Zealand marriages please. Family also said that John was a seaman but no one knew anything about his life.


Hi Kevynne

Am assuming that "brother William" is William Edward PAULIN - b 1831 - (parents George and Elizabeth) ?

William PAULIN - 24 years - appears to have arrived into Victoria (AUS) per the vessel "Nyverheid" about 23 October 1855 -- along with his wife, Julia aged 18 years.
A child "Lizzie Maria" (mis-transcribed as "Litale Maria") was born to the couple at Ballarat East, VIC in 1856 and she in turn went on to marry Neleus LEEDS in 1877.

William's wife Julia PAULIN (bc 1836) died at Victoria in 1860.
*   So, did he leave his child Lizzie in Australia and come to New Zealand between the years 1865 - 1869 .... before returning to Australia to marry "Mary Reid COVENTRY" (also) in 1869 ??

*    If the John PAULIN late of Riverton (Jacob's River), Southland is the brother of William, then he too had died by 1860.

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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 25 August 16 14:03 BST (UK) »
Incidentally, there are three baptisms (christenings) listed for what appears to be the same "John PAULIN".

1.  Tower Hamlets > St. Anne's, Limehouse

Baptised - July 7th - 1814 (date of actual birth, not recorded)
PAULIN - John Arnell
s/o George (a ropemaker) and Elizabeth

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2.  Parish of Woolwich, Kent > Wesleyan church

PAWLIN (as indexed ... but image looks like "PAULIN")   - John Arneel

s/o George (Rope maker) and Elizabeth
Born:    12 June 1814

Christened :    13 June 1819
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3.  Greenwich > St. Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, Kent

PAULIN - John Arnold
Born :  12 June 1814


also

PAULIN - Thomas Edward - born:  13 October 1817

PAULIN - Henry Charles - born 24 March 182
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 ... all sons of George PAULIN (Rope maker) and Elizabeth  -- all baptised on 16 April 1820.