Canadian shipping lists.

[bayonne]

Hello All,

Canadian shipping list April 1908

I'm trying to work out what is written on the second to bottom line, in the fine pen. Looks to me like "to be deported", is this what you see, and is it a likely thing to have written in such a list?

[Pennines]

It certainly looks like 'To be deported' and seems to refer to that family, as they have been bracketed. There is also a number inscribed.

I have not seen such an entry before, but that doesn't mean such entries don't exist with other families -- have you checked whether they did return?

[bayonne]

Thanks for the reply Pennines, I haven't checked for a return journey as I wasn't quite sure how to go about it. I found the outward journey via a search engine, but nothing came up for a return.

Has anyone any idea why a whole family would be deported? The names of the parents are  Alfred and Eloner Horsley, they were on the Lake Manitoba to Canada in April 1908.

Any suggestions?

[AddictedtoFamilyTree]

I agree that it says to be deported. Is it an incoming list or an outgoing list? If you look at the other entries above they have stamped comments. The fact its hand written would suggest to me that it was something a bit out of the ordinary? There was an Immigration Act brought in in 1908 and an ammendment called the continuous journey regulation that stated that immigrants had to travel directly from their home country and not via another. If that helps any?

[bayonne]

It's a list for the UK to Canada (Saint John, New Brunswick).

The new act of 1908 is interesting, was it in force by April?

If anyone is interested the link to the complete page of the log is

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6R37-J?i=14&wc=36TT-PTY%3A981985301%2C981989601%2C981995701%3Fcc%3D1823240&cc=1823240

Thanks for the interest.

[Pennines]

I am so glad you mentioned what the names were!

At the moment I can't see this Alfred on either the Canadian or English census records.

There is both a number, something like 800615 written against the family - and also an annotation something like 'see File 216736.'

I wonder if it's worth checking newspapers in Britain, maybe Alfred had committed a crime (I am getting fanciful now) -- other than that, is there an Archives in the town where they arrived which may be worth searching I wonder.

[bayonne]

At least it isn't boring!

He eventually (post war) ended up in Ilkestone in Derbyshire. I suppose the thing to do is to try and find out how they were sent back to the UK.

[AddictedtoFamilyTree]

I suspected not, but just found something that says the regulation was first challenged when the S.S. Monteagle in British Columbia arrived in late February 1908 so it would appear so, but if they were British travelling from Liverpool to Canada that can't have been the reason for them to be deported.

[Pennines]

There are 3 more children on the following page with the same 'to be deported' annotation.

I notice that some arrivals had 'British Bonus' inserted against their names. Possibly they needed to fulfil certain criteria to warrant this -- maybe Alfred didn't fulfil this.

It may be worth exploring what that bonus was and how they people were entitled to it. He was after all coming into Canada with a few dependents.