Charles John Rolls - Southland area 1911 - 1928

[Remove Kebab]

I think (tentatively) I may have found him. There is a Charles John Rolls, retired, living in Parramatta from 1930-35, dying in the latter year. Now this Charles J Rolls parents are listed as Thomas and Mary on his death, and from that I can see he was born 1856 in Goulburn NSW. Now from family trees on Ancestry (I know)  I've looked at this Charles J Rolls and it appears his mother took (some of) the kids off to Naseby, (the right area of the world) with another man! Two of this Charles' sisters most definitely married in Naseby and I've managed to trace their lives through the papers, and that of his rather scandalous mother, despite how ridiculous the family trees (i recommend looking at them) look it appears as though they're actually correct. Now the fact that the last electoral roll for Charles in NZ in 1928 and the first for a Charles in Australia is 1930, to me, definitely also helps the case. Now why he wasn't on any earlier rolls is beyond me, as is why he returned to Australia, but to me this sounds plausible.

[mmkiwi]

thanks removekebab.   I did find a C J Rolls departing Wellington for Sydney on the Marama on 28/6/1928 listed as 72 years old.  This could be our guy.  For the ancestry tree can I view that if I am looking at the copy via the library or does it have to be on a personal copy?

[majm]

I think (tentatively) I may have found him. There is a Charles John Rolls, retired, living in Parramatta from 1930-35, dying in the latter year. Now this Charles J Rolls parents are listed as Thomas and Mary on his death, and from that I can see he was born 1856 in Goulburn NSW. Now from family trees on Ancestry (I know)  I've looked at this Charles J Rolls and it appears his mother took (some of) the kids off to Naseby, (the right area of the world) with another man! Two of this Charles' sisters most definitely married in Naseby and I've managed to trace their lives through the papers, and that of his rather scandalous mother, despite how ridiculous the family trees (i recommend looking at them) look it appears as though they're actually correct. Now the fact that the last electoral roll for Charles in NZ in 1928 and the first for a Charles in Australia is 1930, to me, definitely also helps the case. Now why he wasn't on any earlier rolls is beyond me, as is why he returned to Australia, but to me this sounds plausible.

Ancestry has not uploaded the NSW electoral rolls from the 1920s.  Perhaps they don't have access to those rolls.   In NSW it did not become compulsory to enrol until the mid 1920s.
There are NSW electoral rolls at the http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/  from memory, all the NSW rolls were there when I was researching through them in the 1990s.  I don't have any ERs from the 1920s in my own offline resources.   It is also important to remember that in NSW, quite often, if a person moved from the district, that it was not until the next election, that anyone notified the Returning Officer to remove that name from the roll. 

JM

[majm]

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754543.0

I have posted info on this thread on the Australia Board.

JM

[SignalHill]

Marriages in Naesby

http://www.archives.presbyterian.org.nz

Mt Ida Presbyterian Parish Marriages [Naesby]         
ROLLS Caroline 17y   BEATTIE John James full age    17/Aug   1875
ROLLS Mary full age [x-mark]   ROBERTSON Daniel full age    08/Mar   1873

There is one other Otago Southland Presbyterian marriage

ROLLS John Thomas 31y   PRICE Elizabeth 22y    26/Apr   1893      Knox Church Dunedin

Is he related ?

Signal

[mmkiwi]

thanks Signal Hill

couple of confirmations on dates - appreciate your time looking these up.

rgds