Muddle over Muddle Ancestry in early 1700's

[Mumfy]

I am interested in the Sarah Muddle who marries William Hider in 1729 in St Michael's Church in Withyam.

I have been unable to find any record of her birth and there seems to be much confusion between this Sarah Muddle and another Sarah who is baptised in 1718. (The latter would appear to be the daughter of the clockmaker Thomas Muddle and his wife Mary.)

But records for the Sarah who marries in 1729 are proving hard to find.

Does anyone know what records are available for Withyam?

Cheers
Mumfy

[BumbleB]

According to Sussex Records Office, they hold the BT's for St Michael & All Angels, Withyam from 1606.  Please these have been transcribed.  They don't appear to hold the original registers.

https://www.westsussex.gov.uk/media/2510/list_of_parishes.pdf

[jonwarrn]

Parish registers and bishops transcripts for Withyham are available to view on the Family Search website, if you register with them.
Marriage was 13th April 1729
William Hider & Sarah Muddle both of Rotherfield.
Marriage was by Licence. Perhaps someone can give you more info on that.
John

[Mumfy]

Thank you BumbleB and John for your incredibly prompt replies and useful information.

Are the Withyam records only available by visiting the local records office?

Cheers
Mumfy

[BumbleB]

I can't see Sussex records on either FindMyPast or Ancestry, but it might be an idea to contact the Record Office and ask them.

Whilst the transcribed entry for the Withyam marriage appears on Family Search (with or without registration), it is always good to see the original entry for possible extra information.

[jonwarrn]

are available to view on the Family Search website, if you register with them.

These are the images of the parish registers and BT's on digitized microfilms

If you want to see them, you can create a free account
https://familysearch.org/register/1

PR of 1729 marriage is available here, if you are signed in
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-XCQQ-MNH?i=55&cat=244587

BT
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DTS3-FN8?i=247&cat=586259

John

[BumbleB]

My apologies, John, I stand corrected.  I did try signing in, and came up with the transcript only. 

For Mumfy:

The register says that both parties are of the parish of Rotherfield.

[artifis]

Sussex Family History Group have Withyam baptisms from 1651 to 1900 and burials from 1663 to 1900 on their web site.  Marriage on their Sussex Marriage Index - I assume other Muddles from Withyam too.

[artifis]

The Marriage Index indicates that Sarah was from Rotherfield and William from Withyham, marriage by licence as noted above by jonw65.  Probably one of the couple a minor.

Looking at Rotherfield, the only baptisms recorded for Muddles in the time period all children of Thomas & Mary are:

01 Sep 1707  Thomas
16 May 1709  Edward
09 Apr 1711  Mary
24 Feb 1712/3  Anne
03 Oct 1714  Elizabeth
21 Jun 1716  Nicholas
10 Aug 1718  Sarah

No Hilders in that period.

Checked Withyham and no Muddles or Hilders in that period.

Puzzling.