Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby

[dobfarm]

The main question why was Elizabeth Brown in Newcastle upon Tyne to meet Thomas Gibson.
Thomas Gibson a (Farm ag Lab ?) labourer suggest being working class could mean Elizabeth Brown was a domestic servant- maid- cook etc

It s too far back to research & find records of working class folk.

Publicans moved location with families as did clergy 


Richard Gibson son of Thomas Gibson  baptized Newcastle upon Tyne  6 June 1762

   
Thomas Gibson X Elizabeth Brown Marriage 12 Sept 1756 St Andrews Newcastle upon Tyne

Elizabeth Brown daughter of Richard and Margaret Brown baptised 12 June 1729 Bedlington, Northumberland, England

The 1800 Richard (family name  ?) Gibson cooper of Selby daughter – son of Thomas Hall’s Gate  near Newcastle- - Lab – by Elizabeth his wife dau’r of R ______  Brown   

[BushInn1746]

Children so far all Tynemouth, of the Elizabeth Hood = William Cook Marriage 24 Jan 1804 Tynemouth by Banns [Im 456, spinster not stated] :-

Burial 1804 (Birth/Bapt not listed Tynemouth)
Mary Cook of No Shields, Dau'r of Wm Cook, Trade Mar'r, Died Oct'r 21, Buried Oct 23, Age 2 W's. [Im 471]

Birth/Baptisms
1805 Eleanor Cook, 4 Sep / 25 Dec, 2 D'r of Wm Cook of No. Sh. Mar'r. N.[Native] of Suffolk by his W. Eliz'th Hood, N. Allsts P.[Parish] [Im 488]

1807 Rosamond Cook, 3 May / 27 May, 3 D'r of Wm Cook of No. Shields, Mar'r, N. of Lowstoff [sic] by his Wife Eliz.th Hood N. of Gateshead P. Allsaints. [Im 554]

1809/1810 Wm Cook, 18 Dec'r 1809 / 10 Jan, 1 Son of Wm Cook of No. Shields, Mariner, N. of Lowstoff by his W. Eliz'th Hood Nat. of Allsaints P. [Im 665]

1811 Eliz'th Cook, 14 Nov:r / 11 Dec, 3 D'r of Wm Cook of No. Sh. Mar.r, N. of Lowstoff by his W. Eliz:th Hood N. of Allsaints P. [Im 714]

Carrying on from Bushinn1746 post,

Elizabeth Cook, wife of William Cook buried Christ Church, Tynemouth 9 Jul 1814 ages 33 years
Abode: North Shields.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ioy/

claire

So If Elizabeth Cook [Hood] died when the children were aged roughly 3-9, and William was a mariner, then who raised them?   

The 1814 marriage William Cook to Eliza Dodds at Tynemouth 1814 states him to be a bachelor (p95), so we can probably rule that one out.   The marriage at All Saints 15 Nov 1815 to Mary Singlewood doesn't say either way (p56) but oddly there is a baptism 10 Jun 1833 of  James Cook s/o William Cook & Mary Underwood.  From the Familysearch Catalog Number it seems to be at the Catholic Church of St Andrew, Newcastle.

Dave and Claire

Thanks, but the letter in front of Brown (in Richard Gibson's descent, image snippet Reply #692) looks to have been smudged out / erased.
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William Cook of North Shields

1816
Who looked after the children of William Cook after Elizabeth Cook (nee Hood) was buried, was one question previously asked.

In 1816 William Cook, of North Shields, Staithman, was given Administration and was the natural and lawful Son (by decree of Court) of William Cook of Wallsend in the County of Northumberland Engine Wright, deceased.

William Cook's, Estate was registered for Duty, under £200.

If this William Cook of North Shields was the same one as being previously discussed, he had ceased to be a Mariner and had taken a Port job.

The Admin mentions a link with Wm Cook, late of Wallsend, Northumberland.
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Interesting comments here about Eleanor Cook
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=105320.msg452253#msg452253

Mark

[..claire..]

I'm not sure the William Cook you've mentioned in your last post could be the man we've all been researching.

'Our' William was born in Lowestoft and was the son of a Henry and Rose I seem to recall.

Claire

[BushInn1746]

Hi Claire

Thanks Claire.

I didn't recall Henry & Rose discussed as parents.

Although I knew William Cook who married Elizabeth Hood being described in their child Baptisms as a Native of Lowestoft and in my quote (spelt as written).

There was quite a number of Cook and several William Cook linked to Lowestoft and was just wondering if perhaps Wm Cook's Father moved to Northumberland.
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Further to this William Cook of Wallsend.

1816 Wallsend Burials
William Cook of, Abode Willington, 5th July, 73 yrs, by Geo Jackson.

A Memorial transcription for his Wife, Alice Cook of Willington, Wife of William 17th April 1802, 57yrs.

John Cook, a Son died 27 May 1802, 34yrs.

William Cook, dying 3rd July 1816, 73 years.

[..claire..]

I'll just add a bit more

Henry Cooke married Rosamund Burwood 1764 by Licence in London

Her parents were a George Burwood (or Barwood) and Judith Salter.

Rosamonds parents marriage is interesting tho, looks like the Burwood/Cookes may have had some family ties up North

Durham Marriage Bond dated 17 May 1725

George Borwood of Low Estoff (Suffolk) and
Judith Salter of Monkwearmouth

Rosamonds baptism was in the NC registers for 1733 in Surrey (Independent)

And that's as far as I am.

Claire

[BushInn1746]

Thank you Claire

The mother of Thomas Hood Bentley, born 1846, St Geo East, was M. S. Cook.

1861 Census - St George in the East
Eleanor Bentley, Head, Mar, 51, Private Lodging House Keeper, Northumberland, N. Shields.
Elizabeth Bentley, Daur, U, 16, Dress Maker, Born Middlesex Wapping.
Thomas H Bentley, Son, U, 15, Mast & Block Maker, Born, Middlesex, St George in the East.
The others were Lodgers.
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Richard Gibson, of Selby, Cooper, might link to Elizabeth Gibson who married John Hood in 1779 at Newcastle upon Tyne, but even if Richard Gibson links to this 1779 marriage, this might be a coincidence, regarding my George Hood of Selby taking over Richard Gibson's business.
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Unfortunately, apart from Richard Gibson, these are not names and places I recognise as being associated with George Hood of Selby.

Thank you, Mark

[BushInn1746]

I'll just add a bit more

Henry Cooke married Rosamund Burwood 1764 by Licence in London

Her parents were a George Burwood (or Barwood) and Judith Salter.

Rosamonds parents marriage is interesting tho, looks like the Burwood/Cookes may have had some family ties up North

Durham Marriage Bond dated 17 May 1725

George Borwood of Low Estoff (Suffolk) and
Judith Salter of Monkwearmouth

Rosamonds baptism was in the NC registers for 1733 in Surrey (Independent)

And that's as far as I am.

Claire

Hi Claire

Thank you, the link that you make to Lowestoft is very interesting and incredible 

My gut feeling says we are more local to the Selby, Yorkshire, area, but the Birth records of Selby Presbyterian Chapel for 100 years are missing, same with early Wesleyans at Selby.

Other problems:-
a) we don't know who John Hood of Scarborough, Mariner, who moved to Selby, lived with or married after Elizabeth Hood (nee Spencer / ex Leppington, Widow) died 1775.
b) Jane Hood, (claimed Wife of John Hood, Mariner), can't be identified.

Mark

[dobfarm]

Other problems:-
a) we don't know who John Hood of Scarborough, Mariner, who moved to Selby, lived with or married after Elizabeth Hood (nee Spencer / ex Leppington, Widow) died 1775.
b) Jane Hood, (claimed Wife of John Hood, Mariner), can't be identified.

Mark
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The problem is John the Selby mariner could have gone to any sea or in land port in his work on ships  after his first wife Elizabeth died between 1775 till approx 1785 (When George was thought born by his marriage and death age) to have found his wife Jane (unless there were was other marriages & burials of other wives in-between). Therefore marriages to a Jane is most likely near a port.

Its toss of a coin.

John Hood innkeeper/publican of the ship south shore Gateshead Brewery trade
With a baptism for a George Hood 1786 with no post history or burial for him and right year for your George of Selby based on George's years of birth 1785 to 1787 Brewery trade
Cooper trade links Richard Gibson to the Tyne. There are B
chance of your George's  possible business education from Anthony Hood Esg

V

John Hood mariner & his daughter Maudland Turner (nee Hood) of Selby and Scarborough
possible trade of cooper of George Hood through his granddad Spencer a  cooper Grocer and miss possible unknown mother maybe Jane Hood wife of John Hood mariner 1803 Selby -1841c says George was born in Yorkshire





Dave

[BushInn1746]

Hi

MI's for Durham and Northumberland are online, some with pictures some without. Some with inscriptions some without (just give date of burial)

I'm going to need time going through Heworth MI's for John Hood burial 1800. Nothing in the search for a Hood but there are plenty of pictures of eroded/damaged gravestones to peruse 

Looked at a few trees for the Middleton family but all have Ann Brown as Ann Brignal. Can see a few Ann's born at the time but nothing standing out to me.

Finally back to the Wetherston/Hood/Scott MI. There was a mention of daughter Margaret Renos ?  - Margaret Wetherston was married to a Michael Renwick or Rennick. I see that name has cropped up as a witness in a marriage Mark has put up.

Claire

Added: For Durham and Northumberland there are 170 Hood burials/MI's in total - quite a few post 1900.

Hi Claire and All

Ballast Hills, Dissenters Burial Ground

Poems not transcribed.

The Registers do not survive (missing) before July 1792.

However, burials started at Ballast Hills early 1700s, this was determined from the earliest M.I., taken in 1817 of those who purchased a Headstone which was still there in 1817.

If George Hood baptised Gateshead 1786 was buried there 1786 to July 1792, there will be No burial record. If he was buried 1792 to 1812 (these were not searched).

Apparently, there is a surname Index to Burial Registers from 1813.

When dobfarm raised his Newcastle theory, I got a paid researcher to look at the HOOD transcriptions only, from those Memorial Inscriptions taken in 1817 by John Bell at Ballast Hills, Dissenters Burial Ground. Those Memorials listed in 1817:-

Memorial Headstone Inscriptions

This stone was Erected by Eleanor, Wife of John Scott, in Memory of her first Husband, James Waterston, who departed this Life October 12th 1754, Aged 35 years. Also of their son, George Waterston, who departed this Life on board the Isis, of the Royal Navy, Feb'ry the 17th 1781, Aged 35 years, whose remains lie, in the East Indies.

Here lies the Body of Eleanor, Wife of the said John Scott, who departed this Life January 31st 1787, Aged 64 years. Likewise of their Children, Elizabeth, and Isabella Waterstons, who died in Infancy. And of their Daughter, Margaret Renos[?], who departed this Life June 20th 1784, Aged 29 years. Also George Hood, second Husband to the said Eleanor, who departed this Life October the 30th 1773 Aged 46 years. Likewise of their Children, Joshua, Caleb, and Elizabeth, who died in Infancy.

Table stone, 6 pillars.
The Burial Place of Robert and Mary Hood, of Newcastle upon Tyne. Mary, Wife of Robert Hood, who departed this Life August 2d 1804: Aged 46 Years.
Mary Hood his second Wife, died the 25th of December 1809, Aged 28 Years.
Robert Hood, ob't 29th August, 1812; AEt. 57.

The Burial Place OF JOHN HOOD, & MARY his Wife. Here lies the Body of BEATRICE TAYLOR, who died Jan'y 29th 1774, Aged 85 years.

The Burial Place of James, Isabella Hood, Baker. Four of their Children died Viz. Alex'r Young Aged 14 Months. Jane Aged 3 Years 5 Months. Annabella Aged 6 Months. Robert James Aged 2 Years & 4 Months.

Some from the Burial Register
Search of John Hood in the Ballast Hills Register:-
1815 March
24th John Hood, Waterman, Address Sandgate, 72.

1812, 2nd September ( Register )
Robert Hood, Innkeeper, Abode Windmill Hills, 57.

It seems I have transcribed some of the above before ...

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.msg7582784#msg7582784
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Researching the Ballast Hills Registers from 1792 to 1812, would still not get me back to 1786 to check if George Hood baptised Gateshead 1786, had been buried at Ballast Hills, due to missing Ballast Hills Burial Registers before 1792.
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Robert Hood who spoke in the Newcastle upon Tyne Chapel [from Brampton, apparently died 18th Century.]

He might be in the Surman Index (online).

Mark


https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=701945.msg7582775#msg7582775

ADDED (some of the 1817 Memorials appear to be missing by 1904):-

Also, see Chadwick J & Dodds E (1904) Inscriptions in Ballast Hills Burial Ground, Newcastle upon Tyne, 1904. Page 83.

"The Burial Place of ROBERT and MARY HOOD, of Newcastle upon Tyne

MARY, Wife of ROBERT HOOD, departed this Life August 2nd 1804: Aged 46 Years.

MARY HOOD his second Wife, died the 25 of December 1809, Aged 28 Years.

ROBERT HOOD Obt. 29th August 1812: AEt. 57.

SAMUEL, second Son of the above ROBERT HOOD died January 9th 1833, Aged 25 Years. BENJAMIN 4th Son of the above died October 29th 1834, aged 24 Years."