Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby

[..claire..]

I can tell you in the time spent at Brampton Robert Hood only recorded 2 baptisms he just didn't bother with them. It was only when he left for Hanover Sq Newcastle that the elders at Brampton compiled as full a list of registers as they could put together from Roberts time there.

I'm presuming with this info he probably didn't bother with his children either. I know Peter Hood ( possible son) was born c1755 and can't see anything for him.

Claire

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I can tell you in the time spent at Brampton Robert Hood only recorded 2 baptisms he just didn't bother with them. It was only when he left for Hanover Sq Newcastle that the elders at Brampton compiled as full a list of registers as they could put together from Roberts time there.

I'm presuming with this info he probably didn't bother with his children either. I know Peter Hood ( possible son) was born c1755 and can't see anything for him.

Claire

Even though Nonconformists had that Act, which was supposed to allow them Freedom to worship, some still experienced discrimination. Some would not employ them, many were forced to make their living themselves, some looked to Quakers and other N.C. Gentleman to help them in business.

I agree, N.C. didn't always record or keep Baptism records.

There are no Births recorded for the Selby, Yorkshire, Presbyterian Chapel Meeting 1690 to 1796.

The book by William Wilberforce Morrell, of Selby says there was no early record keeping of the Wesleyan Methodists at Selby.

You can't always find nonconformists baptised in Anglican or C of E Baptism records. I am not referring to Jews, Quakers or R.C., here.

The Catholics were asked to send in a Return in 1767. Selby complied with a return comprising of forename and surname letters only, with ages, some occupations and how long resident.

Mark

[dobfarm]

I don't know if you have this info or not Mark

I found it in Google books

The Literary Panorama, and National Register - Volume 9 - Page 1123
books.google.co.uk › books

1811
FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 1123
... ANTHONY HOOD , Esq . one of the alder- men of Newcastle - upon - Tyne , died , at his house near that town , July 24 , aged about 53 years . (book was 1811)

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Working on Richard Gibson cooper Selby son of Thomas Gibson farmer Halls gate Newcastle wife Elizabeth Brown of Bedlington, the mother of Elizabeth Gibson bn 1759 Newcastle married John Hood mariner 1779.
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Hi Claire, Dave & All

Thank you for replies.

1755 Newcastle upon Tyne

John Hood, Hoastman married Isabella Surtees.

John Hood, Hoastman, died and Isabel Hood married Lionel Robson in 1765.

Elisabeth Lambton

An Elisabeth Lambton was one of the witnesses (with John Scott) at the 1779 John Hood = Elisabeth Gibson, marriage.

I wonder who Elisabeth Lambton was?

I don't think we can answer the question, but wonder if she might have a link to Surtees?

1788 Admin - Thomas Gibson of Benwell Lodge
Jane Gibson of Benwell Lodge in the Diocese of Durham in the County of Northumberland and in the Parochial Chapelry of St John's in the Town & County of Newcastle upon Tyne Widow.

Thomas Gibson late of Benwell Lodge ... Gentleman deceased ...

I wonder if this Thomas Gibson is related to Richard Gibson of Selby, Yorkshire?

Benwell Lodge must be near Hall's Gate?

Benwell Lodge, Northumberland

4. all the land to the west of the Village was sold by the Trustees of the will of Robert Shafto to William Ord in 1781 and Ord land surrounded the Hall to the west, north & east.
 ...
The first occupant is thought to have been Auborne Surtees, who was born on 4 September 1711 and died on 20 September 1800. He was the father of Bessy Surtees who later became Lady Eldon.

http://www.lostheritage.org.uk/houses/lh_northumberland_benwellhall.html

I wonder if this is near Hall's Gate? We previously discussed Hall's Gate early in the thread.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.msg6034230#msg6034230

Aubone Surtees, Banker, Will 1800

Only done first leaf of catalogue ref ending ... 1800/S25/1

Bank ... the Exchange Bank unto Rowland Burdon of Newcastle aforesaid Esquire my said Son William Surtees and my Son in Law John Scott Esquire ... my Daughters Elizabeth Scott Wife of the said John Scott and Frances Ridley Wife of the Rev Henry Ridley ...

His Surtees family had a SCOTT link.

Online accounts say his daughter Bessie Surtees first eloped to Scotland with John Scott a coal Merchant's Son in 1772 and married, then her Father wanted her Marriage to also take place in England.

1773, St Nicholas, Newcastle upon Tyne, 19th January
His daughter Elizabeth Surtees, minor, married John Scott, wit's Aubone Surtees , Henry Scott
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1744 Robert Surtees and Dorothea Lambton

1744 Sedgefield County Durham 2nd August
Robert Surtees = Dorothea Lambton.

Surtees, of Redworth
From Burke's Commoners Vol II pp 656-659 1836

Robert Surtees, esq. of Redworth, born at Newbiggin, 12th May, 1694, who espoused, 2nd August, 1744, Dorothy, second daughter of Thomas Lambton, [footnote]2 esq. of Hardwick, by Dorothy, his wife, daughter of Calverley Bewicke, esq. of Close House, and had, with two sons, Edward and Robert, who died in infancy, two daughters, viz ...

Footnote
2     The Lambtons of Hardwick were a branch of the great and ancient stock of Lambton of Lambton.

Sir William Lambton, knt. of Lambton, b. in 1589, ...
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I'm also wondering if the two named John Scott might be related. The one above and John Scott, the Waterman (previously discussed).

What do you think?

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Marriage transcription for

1775, Newcastle upon Tyne  All Saints, 27th August

John Scott = Eleanor Hood

Witnesses: Geo Waterston ; Wm Richardson

Added:
According to a transcription
1756 Newcastle All Saints
George Hood
Eleanor Wetherston
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ADDED:

18th January 1773 Licence
John Scott of the Parish of St Nicholas in Newcastle and Diocese of Durham, Gentleman, 21 years and upwards and a Bachelor intends to marry Elizabeth Surtees aged 18 and a minor of the same Parish and Diocese.

Also signed by her Father Aubone Surtees

1773 Marriage Bond for John Scott & Elizabeth Surtees
John Scott and William Surtees of the Parish of St Nicholas in Newcastle and Diocese of Durham Gentlemen

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The Borderers Table Book; ... Vol III

https://archive.org/details/bordererstablebo03richiala

Page 8
Aubone Surtees (died at Benwell 1800) was the Son of Edward Surtees, Esq. of Hedley-woodhead, by his Wife Frances, daughter and coheir of William Aubone, Esq., Alderman of Newcastle. The book said he married her at Ovington, 9th April 1705.

A transcription says Frances Albany.

The book says the surname of William Aubone, Sheriff of Newcastle in 1679 and Mayor in 1684, was sometimes varied to Albany.

[dobfarm]

Working on Richard Gibson cooper Selby son of Thomas Gibson farmer Halls gate Newcastle wife Elizabeth Brown of Bedlington, the mother of Elizabeth Gibson bn 1759 Newcastle married John Hood mariner 1779.
 ...

Hi Claire, Dave & All

Thank you for replies.

1755 Newcastle upon Tyne

John Hood, Hoastman married Isabella Surtees.

John Hood, Hoastman, died and Isabel Hood married Lionel Robson in 1765.

Elisabeth Lambton

An Elisabeth Lambton was one of the witnesses (with John Scott) at the 1779 John Hood = Elisabeth Gibson, marriage.

I wonder who Elisabeth Lambton was?

I don't think we can answer the question, but wonder if she might have a link to Surtees?

1788 Admin - Thomas Gibson of Benwell Lodge
Jane Gibson of Benwell Lodge in the Diocese of Durham in the County of Northumberland and in the Parochial Chapelry of St John's in the Town & County of Newcastle upon Tyne Widow.

Thomas Gibson late of Benwell Lodge ... Gentleman deceased ...

I wonder if this Thomas Gibson is related to Richard Gibson of Selby, Yorkshire?

Benwell Lodge must be near Hall's Gate?

Benwell Lodge, Northumberland

4. all the land to the west of the Village was sold by the Trustees of the will of Robert Shafto to William Ord in 1781 and Ord land surrounded the Hall to the west, north & east.
 ...
The first occupant is thought to have been Auborne Surtees, who was born on 4 September 1711 and died on 20 September 1800. He was the father of Bessy Surtees who later became Lady Eldon.

http://www.lostheritage.org.uk/houses/lh_northumberland_benwellhall.html

I wonder if this is near Hall's Gate? We previously discussed Hall's Gate early in the thread.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.msg6034230#msg6034230

Aubone Surtees, Banker, Will 1800

Only done first leaf of catalogue ref ending ... 1800/S25/1

Bank ... the Exchange Bank unto Rowland Burdon of Newcastle aforesaid Esquire my said Son William Surtees and my Son in Law John Scott Esquire ... my Daughters Elizabeth Scott Wife of the said John Scott and Frances Ridley Wife of the Rev Henry Ridley ...

His Surtees family had a SCOTT link.

Online accounts say his daughter Bessie Surtees first eloped to Scotland with John Scott a coal Merchant's Son in 1772 and married, then her Father wanted her Marriage to also take place in England.

1773, St Nicholas, Newcastle upon Tyne, 19th January
His daughter Elizabeth Surtees, minor, married John Scott, wit's Aubone Surtees , Henry Scott
 ------------------
1744 Robert Surtees and Dorothea Lambton

1744 Sedgefield County Durham 2nd August
Robert Surtees = Dorothea Lambton.

Surtees, of Redworth
From Burke's Commoners Vol II pp 656-659 1836

Robert Surtees, esq. of Redworth, born at Newbiggin, 12th May, 1694, who espoused, 2nd August, 1744, Dorothy, second daughter of Thomas Lambton, [footnote]2 esq. of Hardwick, by Dorothy, his wife, daughter of Calverley Bewicke, esq. of Close House, and had, with two sons, Edward and Robert, who died in infancy, two daughters, viz ...

Footnote
2     The Lambtons of Hardwick were a branch of the great and ancient stock of Lambton of Lambton.

Sir William Lambton, knt. of Lambton, b. in 1589, ...
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I'm also wondering if the two named John Scott might be related. The one above and John Scott, the Waterman (previously discussed).

What do you think?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatekeeper%27s_lodge

quote

I wonder if this Thomas Gibson is related to Richard Gibson of Selby, Yorkshire?

Benwell Lodge must be near Hall's Gate?  (Could be one of the same -see link above)

Benwell Lodge, Northumberland

Unqote

[BushInn1746]

Richard and Eleanor had a few children, but from the baptism of his daughter Elizabeth in 1800

Elizabeth daughter of Richard Gibson of Selby Cooper, son of THOMAS GIBSON of Hall's Gates near Newcastle labourer, and by Elizabeth his wife daughter of --- Brown of Bedlington, Northumberland

So looking for a Richard Gibson born c 1766 near Newcastle son of Thomas and Elizabeth.

EDIT:

Elianor daughter of Leonard Colbert, woodman of Selby, by Elianor his wife daughter of Matthew Lofthouse of Seathingwell in the parish of Saxon, farmer.

Hall's Gate and Benwell Lodge were close, a short distance over the main road (road West out of Newcastle) from each other.

The image and links mentions Hall's Gate, Nun's Moor and the Town Moor.

Reply 17 JenB
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.msg6034396#msg6034396

Reply 43 from dobfarm
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.msg6034895#msg6034895

Reply 22 Jomot & Reply 33 dobfarm found this link
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=kYYHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA174&dq=hall%27s+gate+newcastle&hl=en&sa=X&redir_e;sc=y#v=onepage&q=hall's%20gate%20newcastle&f=false

Which says Nun's Moor next to Hall's Gate

Reply 25
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.msg6034452#msg6034452

Map with Nun's Moor depicted both sides of the main road.
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1788 Thomas Gibson of Benwell Lodge Admin
Jane Gibson of Benwell Lodge ... Late Thomas Gibson of Benwell Lodge ... in the Parochial Chapelry of St John's in the Town and County of Newcastle upon Tyne, Widow, is claiming Admin.

The late Thomas Gibson might be a relative, or Thomas Gibson might have remarried a Jane?

Map attached
The Lodge at Benwell is just South of the main road and one of the gates to Fenham Hall of Ord, Esquire is close abutting the main road.
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Added:
Thomas GIBSON, gentleman, of Benwell Lodge in the county of Northumberland [Newcastle upon Tyne St John, Northumberland]

Date of probate: 2 January 1788

administration bond, penal sum £3,000, 2 January 1788 (DPR/I/3/1788/A1)

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Newcastle Journal, 12th August 1837
At Sunderland, on the 8th inst. Mr George Hood, master mariner, to Miss Jane Day of South Shields.

George Hood lost at Sea 1840

His Will left to Laidler / Leadley and Hood of Scalby/Cloughton
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On the North East Inheritance Project

Will of
Jane GIBSON, widow, of town and county of Newcastle upon Tyne
Date of probate: 15 January 1830

will, estate value £100, 21 December 1809 (DPR/I/1/1830/G5/1-2)
registered copy of will, estate value £100, 21 December 1809 (DPR/I/2/41 p207-208)

She leaves to a Jackson Couple, He is a Mariner.

Jane Gibson has 3 DAY surname nephews.

Mark