Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby

[..claire..]

Mary Jane Thompsons father John Thompson , was quite a wealthy man. A thousand pounds given to Mary Jane upon his death plus any rents arising from his property on Horsefair Street for life. Also mention of a trust for her children to the value of £5000 to be shared on attaining the age of 21 years.

More property was left to her brother Frederick John Thompson for life.

This John Thompson was born c1804 in Nottingham.

[BushInn1746]

Thank you Goughy and Claire

a) Found on Free BMD, I wonder which Frederick J A Thompson married Ethel M. Richardson in the Dec Quarter 1936, please?


b) Claire, the 'Tyler Thompson' link with Leicester, sounds interesting, especially as my 2 X Gt. Grandfather George Hood, Leather Merchant and Victualler (and Freemason) possibly had some business association, with Henry Peters Tyler of Belvoir Street, Leicester and Tyler Brothers of Belvoir Street, Leicester, who were also in the Leather business and Shoe Makers?



c) I have a feeling now, that my initial excitement yesterday of a Sculcoates 1910 Birth (full name now edited in as Frederick James Ashton Thompson and different to the 1958 Will of Frederick John Arnall Thompson) and the unknown Frederick J A Thompson 1936 marriage to a Richardson was premature?



EDIT: The two differences between George Hood of Selby and George Hood of Leicester, was that:-

George Hood of Selby had business associations with Quakers and
George Hood of De-Montfort Street, (Office Belvoir Street) Leicester was a member of the Freemasons.


Quakers
I have read about Quakers that they could form these alliances with Non-Quakers, provided it furthered their business interests to provide funds for their Quaker Meeting Halls and Organisation.

Regards Mark

[..claire..]

I'm looking forward to what and if there is anything written in the Quaker meeting books about GH.

I can't find much regarding the Frederic J A Thompson and Ethel M Richardson marriage - it's not been indexed by the sub sites. There are however Ethel M Thompson deaths in Sussex, but they could be anyone.

Did Frederic have any children ?

Finally found John Tyler Thompson's parents marriage: Westminster, St Martin-In-The-Fields by Licence. Doesn't say much bar he was a coach maker.

James Thom(p)son married Mary Tyler 19 November 1765
He signed, she left her mark.
Witnesses: Thomas Tyler and Mary Smith

[BushInn1746]

Hi

Thanks Claire, the Notice doesn't say if Frederick had children.

I have 68 Claims to be in before date notices, that Jack dealt with. One or two can sometimes possibly be family related.

Yes, the Quaker records may hopefully be the answer.

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According to a Yorkshire newspaper my Grandfather was to be recorded on the Battle of Britain Roll in Westminster Abbey, my Father never said anything, so I asked my Father and family members were invited. I've got very brief information from a Departmental Archives and from Blackpool, which also confirmed her Leicester and Scottish addresses (one of which we visited many times as a family). Grandfather's papers sent in 1940 to my Grandmother only confirms my Grandfather's details; Great Grandfather's name and address and Jack's (already known to us).

My Grandfather was "killed in Action" by the British whilst on Royal Air Force Operations for the Air Ministry WHI (Whitehall), before my Father was old enough to glean much family information.

Jack (Solicitor) wrote back and forth much correspondence.They added his name to his Captain's cross in Hampshire, but missing according to what they told my Grandmother.

His name is also recorded in the York Minster Roll (seen), because their aircraft departed from a Yorkshire Areodrome.

Kind regards, Mark

[dobfarm]

Maybe nit picking here,

One thinks of a Cooper as a barrel make- full stop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooper_(profession)


It turns out that there was different types, one was a general Cooper (in link under history)

Quote extract:

 ' The "general" cooper worked on ships, on the docks, and in warehouses, and was responsible for cargo while in storage or transit. With a specialized skill, the general cooper could repair a broken stave without losing the contents of a cask.' unquote

Preparation of a barrel long term for storage of the barrel as the charcoal burning or charring the barrel.

http://www.popsci.com/what-happens-in-whiskey-barrel-over-half-century

This would suggest brewing

Found originally found by Claire

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=756955.msg6181730#msg6181730


From FindMyPast
George
Hood
Years 1808 to 1814 (Finish 25 April 1811 paid off 15th July 1812)
Rank Armourer .............................(Could have be cooper in charge gun power kegs or barrels)
Vessel (ship) Acasta
Pay book number 202
Mother Elizabeth

National archives number ADM 27/13
British Royal Navy Allotment Declarations 1795 to 1852 Service records
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Google 'royal navy allotments'

Click on ' England, Navy Allotment Records, 1795-1812 (FamilySearch '

(These records will be accessible on order with small charge at your nearest LDS family history libraries with more info than those on Findmypast website)


example doc (Keep clicking on doc image to enlarge or zoom in to read )

https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/File:England,_Navy_Allotment_Records_PPQ_15-0264_DGS_101991685_00083.jpg

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Rn paid off 15th July 1812
(George married Selby 18th July 1815) 

Exact 2 years after ? Could have been on reserve - Napoleonic Wars finished June 1815

[BushInn1746]

Thank you dobfarm

Unfortunately, I've placed a reply here on West Yorkshire (after going off the quote from Claire).

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=756955.msg6272147#msg6272147

Regards Mark

[BushInn1746]

The case (below) was found whilst searching for "Hood's Mill" at Windmill Hills, Gateshead.

1846 Property Adverts relating to HOOD v. HALL

One of the properties being advertised in 1846 (HOOD v. HALL) includes a lot of plots and property at Gateshead, including Windmill Hills, Gateshead, where the Hoods are known to have lived.

It would seem from the adverts that the same HOOD, possibly had the 4 Cottages in Town Street, HARROGATE, a garden, several Closes and a Copyhold Close in the Township of BONDGATE, in DARLINGTON, YORKSHIRE.

The adverts, are possibly linked to the John Lionel Hood, bankruptcy.

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Left me wondering if there were any Hoods living at those Yorkshire places in 1841, possibly related to the Hoods at Gateshead?

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Edit:
Reply #55
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.msg6035137#msg6035137

Durham County Advertiser 25 July 1829
On the 8th inst. John Lionel Hood, Esq. of Newcastle, to Mary, second daughter of Samuel Walker Parker, Esq. of Scots House.

Regards Mark

[..claire..]

Hi

No Hoods in Harrogate in 1841, two Jane Hoods in Darlington, both servants but not in Bond-Gate.

Can't see the Hood v Hall case neither. There is a lengthy case involving Peter Hood regarding Windmill Hills & the colliery - 1840's - Hood v Easton.

[dobfarm]

Hello

Thanks dobfarm.

I've been looking at the Census for any Hood, born Selby and managed to string this together using Ancestry and Free BMD ...

Henry Hood born Craike 1849 [GRO District Easingwold]. Occupation in later Census Brewery Labourer, later Brewery Drayman.
MARRIED
Elizabeth GIBSON BORN SELBY 1853 (becoming Elizabeth Hood born Selby)
(according to a transcription on Ancestry)
At YORK St Olave 22 February 1873
Father Francis Hood

Father: Francis Hood, aged 41 in 1851 Census born Forest Lane Head Yorkshire and Knaresboro' Yorkshire (at Craike Durham in 1841 Census).
Mother: Elizabeth Hood, aged 40 in 1851. Born Baxby, Yorkshire and also transcribed as Bagby


Crayke / Craike, seems to be in County of Durham, then North Yorkshire in 1844.

Census transcription misspellings:-
for Craike/Crayke, is Gayke
for Forest Lane Head, also misspelt Forest Lam Head

Also in one Census the Enumerator has spelt Henry Hood as Henry Hudd.


A place called Coxwold was a possible place for my missing William Hood in the 1841 Selby Census, (Wm Hood bapt. Selby 1816)

Regards Mark

Hello

Thanks Goughy

Not really sure if the Henry Hood b. Craike and Elizabeth Gibson b. Selby, is going very far at the moment.

1861 Crayke Census Francis Hudd (alias Francis Hood) Head and family, including Henry Hudd, son and Scholar, aged 12 born Craike, are living next door to a Thomas Gibson born Craike and Jane Gibson born Stillington and family.

So this might be how Henry Hood born Craike, has come into contact with Elizabeth Gibson born Selby.


However, in 1861 Elizabeth Gibson, aged 8, born Selby, is in the Census at Clifton, City York and her mother is Ann Gibson, Head, W, aged 32, Railway Gate Keeper, born Burn Yorkshire. So a separate Gibson family here, to the one in Crayke.

Regards Mark

Did you ever find more on this Ann Gibson