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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #324 on: Tuesday 18 October 16 13:37 BST (UK) »
Carrying on from Bushinn1746 post,

Elizabeth Cook, wife of William Cook buried Christ Church, Tynemouth 9 Jul 1814 ages 33 years
Abode: North Shields.

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claire

Hello Claire

Oh thank you for this, I can search the newspapers for any Obit (if one was placed). We could do with a bit of  the same magic, with old Geo Hood d. 18 September 1845. So I need to search more Registers on the link.

Thank you Jomot, I don't recognise any names at the moment, but I'm sure your research will benefit someone looking.

I've not come across Nightscale mentioned by Claire & dobfarm, but thank you.

Regards Mark

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #325 on: Tuesday 18 October 16 15:53 BST (UK) »
William Spendlove died c1814 ( from probate record) and Eleanor went on to marry John Nightscales at Sculcoates the same year.

John and Eleanor in 1841 census along with a Dorothy Spendlove, daughter of Henry, Eleanor's son.

There are a family of Nightscales in Selby all born Hull.

Eleanor/ Ellen Nightscales died April 1851

Hi Claire

Good research above ;)


1841c and 1851c Eleanor in hospital in Hull both say she was born in Yorkshire and 51c being more pacific born in Hull.

Mind you ! Hull Hood's links to occupations, Coopers, Hoppers, Brewers Hoods some with links to Scotland, and Sarah Richardson marriage Sculcoates, - Now Nightscales occ cooper Selby link

Eleanor Hood b 1783 in Hull is worth keeping on that back burner along with Richard Hood b 1771 to 1774 residence Hull (Sutton/Sculcoates/Drypool)

Nightscales seems a rare surname around Hull, Rotherham and Wentworth Hall area.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #326 on: Wednesday 19 October 16 12:56 BST (UK) »
Want John Gibson's occupation
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Can anyone find the marriage in church online of Myers Wayman

 Myers Wayman    b    1835   
 Age     21   
   Elizabeth Ann Gibson      *****************
b   1836   
   AGE 20   
    04 Mar 1856   
   Bishop-Wearmouth, Durham, England   
 Father    John Wayman     
 Spouse's Father'   John Gibson     
 Marital Status     Single   
 Spouse's Marital Status     Single 

1851c
James Wood  Head M 64 Osmotherly, Yorkshire
 Mary Wood   Wife F 60 No Shields, Northumberland
 Ann Gibson   Daughter F 33 Sunderland, Durham *****
 Cath Wood   Daughter F 23 Sunderland, Durham
 Elizabeth Gibson   Grand Daughter F 15 Sunderland, Durham  **********
James Gibson   Grand Son M 11 Sunderland, Durham


1861c
Myers Wayman   
 County     Durham   
 Event Type     Census   
 Event Date     1861   
 Event Place     Bishopwearmouth, Durham, England   
 Ecclesiastical Parish     St Pauls   
 Registration District     Sunderland   
 Residence Note     Woodbine Street   
 Gender     Male   
 Age     26   
 Marital Status     Widower   
 Occupation     Joiner   
 Relationship to Head of Household     Son In Law   
 Birth Year (Estimated)     1835   
 Birthplace     Sunderland, Durham   
 Page Number     23   
 Registration Number     RG09   
 Piece/Folio     3773 / 15   
 Affiliate Record Type     Household   
   

 
Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

  Ann Gibson   Head F 43 Sunderland, Durham ******* widow
 James Gibson   Son M 21 Sunderland, Durham
  Myers Wayman  Son In Law M 26 Sunderland, Durham

In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #327 on: Friday 21 October 16 11:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Claire, dobfarm and All

Can't help with the 1856 Wedding, but it seems Myers Wayman was a Cabinet Maker, but Myers Wayman of Villiers Street became a Funeral Director, according to a [customers] funeral report of October 1892 at Bishopwearmouth Cemetery.

Sunderland Daily Echo Tuesday 31 July 1877.

To be Let.
TO LET (immediately), HOUSE and
SHOP, 50 Villiers-street; in excellent condition.-
Apply to Myers Wayman, the house below, or to Mr. Gibson,
Cloisters.


There was a shipowner, a Mr Watson Wayman.

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #328 on: Friday 21 October 16 12:32 BST (UK) »
MYERS WAYMAN, Deceased, March 1901 was also of 51 Villiers Street.

An announcement To the Public of Sunderland and District. The business of the Late Myers Wayman, Funeral Furnisher and Joiner, will be carried on as heretofore, ... 

Executors
Myers Wayman
Hannah Lane Wayman

March 15th, 1901.

14th March 1901 Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette

The Late Mr Myers Wayman.-The late Mr
Myers Wayman was buried this afternoon at
Sunderland Cemetery, the ceremony being cond-
ducted by Mr Haswell Brown (Borough Account-
ant). With the relatives who followed the
remains from the late residence in Villiers Street
was a large number of friends, representatives of
the Cairo Street, Bethany, and James Williams
Street Christian Lay Churches, and also cab
proprietors, and undertakers, Mr Wayman hav-
ing been an enthusiastic member of the Christian
Lay Church, and also an undertaker with a very
large business, over 300 burials having been con-
ducted annually by him for many years. Many
beautiful wreaths and other floral tributes had
been forwarded. The coffin was of panelled oak,
brass mounted, and wore a plate inscribed
"Myers Wayman, died March 11th, 1901, aged
66 years.


Shame there was no list of relatives!

6th April 1901. Announcement made by the Ebenezer Christian Lay Church, Cairo Street, Hendon.

Memorial Service about his life would be held on Easter Sunday April 7th, Sermon by Mr Wm. Bagley.

Regards Mark

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #329 on: Friday 21 October 16 14:53 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Sorry if we already have this info

Elizabeth Ann Gibson born on 3 Feb 1836 baptised 4th March 1836 Sunderland.
Parents: John Gibson and Elizabeth Hood.
Abode: Ropery Lane.
Fathers occ. CORDWAINER

Claire
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #330 on: Friday 21 October 16 15:06 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Sorry if we already have this info

Elizabeth Ann Gibson born on 3 Feb 1836 baptised 4th March 1836 Sunderland.
Parents: John Gibson and Elizabeth Hood.
Abode: Ropery Lane.
Fathers occ. CORDWAINER

Claire

I may be wrong, but think dobfarm is trying to put the unknown relationships together to an old post back on Page 31, of this thread? Mark

Think your posts, have partly beaten me to it, but spent some time trying to take the Ropery Lane, Sunderland inhabitants forward. Then I couldn't find a nearby neighbour in Silver St. in 1851 that still lived there in 1861, until in 1851 I met the late Wm Dodds aged 46 b.Monkwearmouth & Sarah Dodds, aged 38 b.Sunderland, right down the street and then worked back to No. 50 Silver Street in 1861 ...

I had not seen your posts, until I came back to post this ...

1841. Ropery Lane, Parish of Sunderland, Durham

Mary Hood, aged 50, Ind.
Thomas hood, aged 16, Shoem., App., Y [Y same county]
Catherine Hood, aged 12, Y
Sarah Hood, aged 9, Y
John Gibson, aged 27, Shoem., Y
Ann Gibson, aged 25, Y
Elizabeth Gibson, aged 5, Y
James Gibson, aged 1, Y



1851. 50 Silver Street, Sunderland

James Wood, Head, Marr., 64, Seaman, Yorkshire, Osmotherly
Mary Wood, Wife, aged 60, NtLand, No Shields
Ann Gibson, Daur, aged 33, Grocers Shop, Durham, Sunderland
Cath Wood, Daur, U, aged 23, Durham, Sunderland
Elizabeth Gibson, Gd Daur, aged 15, Durham, Sunderland
James Gibson, Gd Son, aged 11, Durham, Sunderland

Mary Gibson, Gd Daur, aged 7, Durham, Sunder’d
Daniel Fairhead, Lodger, widr, aged 26, Seaman, Suffolk, n.k.


1861. 50 Silver Street, Sunderland [Ten years later Wood, spelt Hood]
 
James Hood, Head, Mar., aged 68, Mariner (Mer Ser.), Yorkshire, Osmoutherly
Mary Hood, Wife, Mar., aged 68, Northumberland, Preston [Preston 1 mile N. of N. Shields]

Mark

Hello Claire and All

Thanks, I think dobfarm is also after John Gibson's occupation 1835 marriage, but its reminded me, of why dobfarm is interested in the 1835 marriage (see page 31).

Are these Gibsons of any help?

North-East Coast Institution of Engineers and Shipbuilders
1903.

https://archive.org/stream/transactionsnor08shipgoog

Gibson, H., 162, Roker Avenue, Monkwearmouth, Sunderland ... (S) Nov. 1884
Gibson, J. Hamilton, c/o Messrs. Laird Bros., Birkenhead Iron Works, Birkenhead (E) Graduate, April 1891
Member, Oct 1894
Gibson, William Wight, 162, Roker Avenue, Sunderland ... (S) Nov. 1900
Gibson, W. H., 37, Tatham Street, Sunderland (E) Nov. 1884

Thank you.
Regards Mark

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #331 on: Friday 21 October 16 16:23 BST (UK) »
Hello dobfarm and All

Re Reply #326 ... This Mr Gibson, Cloisters, is linked to your Myers Wayman, offering the property in Villiers Street (July 1877) and is also offering another property To Let in 1878, where his name is now given in full, as Thomas Gibson, of Cloisters.


Sunderland Daily Echo Tuesday 31 July 1877.

To be Let.
TO LET (immediately), HOUSE and
SHOP, 50 Villiers-street; in excellent condition.-
Apply to Myers Wayman, the house below, or to Mr. Gibson,
Cloisters
.



Sunderland Daily Echo, Saturday, January 5th, 1878.

TO LET, at February Term, the HOUSE,
38 Sunniside, suitable either for a dwelling house or
office.-Apply to Thomas Gibson, Cloisters, or Lambton
Landsale
.


Sunderland Daily Echo, Friday, February 19, 1886
GIBSON.-On the 17th inst., at 3, The Cloisters,
aged 74, Mr Thomas Gibson.


London Gazette January 8, 1915 ...

Mrs. ELIZABETH GIBSON, Deceased.
NOTICE is hereby given, that all persons having claims against the estate of Elizabeth Gibson, late of No. 3, The Cloisters, Sunderland, Widow (who died on the 21st day of May, 1914, and whose will was proved at Durham on the 7th day of July, 1914, by John Bell Dixon and Frederick Stokoe, the executors), are hereby required to send particulars of their claims to the undersigned, the Solicitors for the said executors, on or before the 15th day of February, 1915, after which date the executors will proceed to distribute the assets of the deceased amongst the persons entitled thereto, having regard only to the claims of which they shall then have had notice; and they will not be liable for the assets, or any part thereof, so distributed to any person of whose claim they shall not then have had notice.—Dated this 6th day of January, 1915.
LONGDEN, MANN and LONGDEN, Somerford-buildings, Sunderland.

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #332 on: Friday 21 October 16 16:48 BST (UK) »
John Gibson 1836 marriage to Ann Gibson -a father was Thomas Gibson (to many years later to be Thomas Gibson Halls Gate 1766 ) on one baptism (Tyne=area)

Edited 8.15pm 21 Oct 2016

The marriage of Elizabeth Ann Gibson  x Myers Wayman 1856  may give John Gibson deceased as he sounds to be deceased by 1856 -therefore the vicar may have left the box left blank for father and occupation of Elizabeth's father.

Gibson's numbers seem to be like 'identifying an ants in an ants nest' around Newcastle & Durham country and with the vague limited information pre 1837  marriage PR's   & if pre 1812 PR's of this John Gibson and Thomas Gibson Halls Gate a farmer/ labourer (worker) being Richard Gibson b 1766 a cooper Selby father above said Thomas being 70 years plus before 1835. I think this route back is a no go'er

Looking at apprentice records in general, its does not always follow a son takes the same trade as his father in many or if not most cases.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth