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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #279 on: Monday 10 October 16 02:09 BST (UK) »

James Hood son of Thomas and Ann 1 Sep 1793 Osmotherley

 
 
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1861 England Census
Census & Electoral Rolls ?

Name:  James Hood
Spouse:  Mary Hood
Birth:  1793 - Orsmouthby,(?) Yorkshire, England  (
Residence:  1861 - Sunderland, Durham, England

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I can't remember off hand for the life in me  :-[ where I have seem it - But some records online have come up as Low moor- when searching George Hood stuff (Burials seem to irritate the back of my mind ? Graveshead stone website ??). I ignored Low moor thinking it was  of Low moor Bradford, but it seems there is a low moor  Osmotherley as well

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Osmotherley/


"LOW MOOR, 4 farm houses in the township of West-Harlsey, and parish of Osmotherley; 3½ miles from Northallerton."

http://www.osmotherley.org.uk/parish-council/

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/MIs/NRY/NorthallertonMIsE.html
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #280 on: Monday 10 October 16 03:11 BST (UK) »
Cath G Wood has the G crossed out on the original - looks like the enumerator started to write Gibson and then changed it.

So if this James Wood / Hood is the father of Ann Gibson (formerly Hood) plus all of the other Hood children from the 1841 census, then he was born Osmotherley c1787 - meaning we are still missing the James Hood bap 1795 Tynemouth, s/o James Hood of All Saints & Ann Phillips of Hull.

Think Susannah Brough daughter in law came from Newcastle/Tyne (nee Hood daughter of Richard Hood mariner of Sculcoates )

I still think Richard Hood mariner  birth 1774 - death 1838/9 Sculcoates/Hull is the key
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #281 on: Monday 10 October 16 05:30 BST (UK) »
As image from one page - Mark has full page

Baptism before marriage ?
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #282 on: Monday 10 October 16 08:39 BST (UK) »
Think your posts, have partly beaten me to it, but spent some time to take the Ropery Lane, Sunderland inhabitants forward. Then I couldn't find a nearby neighbour in Silver St. in 1851 that still lived there in 1861, until in 1851 I met the late Wm Dodds aged 46 b.Monkwearmouth & Sarah Dodds, aged 38 b.Sunderland, right down the street and then worked back to No. 50 Silver Street in 1861 ...

I had not seen your posts, until I came back to post this ...

1841. Ropery Lane, Parish of Sunderland, Durham

Mary Hood, aged 50, Ind.
Thomas hood, aged 16, Shoem., App., Y [Y same county]
Catherine Hood, aged 12, Y
Sarah Hood, aged 9, Y
John Gibson, aged 27, Shoem., Y
Ann Gibson, aged 25, Y
Elizabeth Gibson, aged 5, Y
James Gibson, aged 1, Y



1851. 50 Silver Street, Sunderland

James Wood, Head, Marr., 64, Seaman, Yorkshire, Osmotherly
Mary Wood, Wife, aged 60, NtLand, No Shields
Ann Gibson, Daur, aged 33, Grocers Shop, Durham, Sunderland
Cath Wood, Daur, U, aged 23, Durham, Sunderland
Elizabeth Gibson, Gd Daur, aged 15, Durham, Sunderland
James Gibson, Gd Son, aged 11, Durham, Sunderland

Mary Gibson, Gd Daur, aged 7, Durham, Sunder’d
Daniel Fairhead, Lodger, widr, aged 26, Seaman, Suffolk, n.k.


1861. 50 Silver Street, Sunderland [Ten years later Wood, spelt Hood]
 
James Hood, Head, Mar., aged 68, Mariner (Mer Ser.), Yorkshire, Osmoutherly
Mary Hood, Wife, Mar., aged 68, Northumberland, Preston [Preston 1 mile N. of N. Shields]

Mark

Hello

Thank you dobfarm and Jomot, for your replies.

Think you missed my last post above dobfarm, previous page linking 1841 through to 1861...

Osmotherly Yorkshire, is one of about 10 Yorkshire places, on my radar for some time, as being around the right age to my George Hood of Selby, another Hood (John Hood) baptised Osmotherly ...

1851 Census Stranton
Village
John Hood, Head, Marr, aged 69, Ag. Lab, Yorkshire, Osmotherly.
Mary Hood, Wife, Marr, aged 61, born Yorkshire, Sands End

From my photocopies of Yorkshire, Hood 1992 IGI Fiche ...
John Hudd, baptised Osmotherly 8th December 1781, parents Thomas Hudd/Margret

Thomas Hood married Margrett Tyerman 14th January 1777 Osmotherley.

Looking at your recent image thank you (Reply 281), Thomas married twice.

A Sandsend on the coast W.N.W. of Whitby.

Regards Mark

EDIT:
1851, Aug. 17.
Re Hood of Stranton , Stockton. ...
During a violent thunderstorm, the lightning stuck the house of Mr. T. Hood, of Stranton, and killed Mrs. Hood.

The Durham Advertiser dated 22 August 1851
The Inquest was held at Stranton on the 19th, thunder storm was the previous Sunday. Jane wife of Thomas Hood of that place was 19 years of age and had been married nine months.

Inquest fairly detailed, bolt came through the window.

As a small boy, it was impressed time and again, close the windows and get away from the window during a lightning storm.


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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #283 on: Monday 10 October 16 12:58 BST (UK) »
Not sure what you are saying here ? can you elaborate on the meaning............................. of - as we need a George Hood baptism circa 1785 to 7 to link a place too something.

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Osmotherly Yorkshire, is one of about 10 Yorkshire places, on my radar for some time, as being around the right age (?)to my George Hood of Selby, another Hood (John Hood) baptised Osmotherly ...

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If we can link the Gibson's in the household Mary Hood nee Morrison 1841c Ropery lane, to Elizabeth Gibson married 1779 to John Hood mariner to a possible known baptism George Hood Gateshead father John 1786.
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #284 on: Monday 10 October 16 17:19 BST (UK) »
Not sure what you are saying here ? can you elaborate on the meaning............................. of - as we need a George Hood baptism circa 1785 to 7 to link a place too something.

Thanks for all your efforts and massive input.
 
Been back a few pages on this thread and I can't see where the above was mentioned recently?

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Osmotherly Yorkshire, is one of about 10 Yorkshire places, on my radar for some time, as being around the right age (?)to my George Hood of Selby, another Hood (John Hood) baptised Osmotherly ...

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If we can link the Gibson's in the household Mary Hood nee Morrison 1841c Ropery lane, to Elizabeth Gibson married 1779 to John Hood mariner to a possible known baptism George Hood Gateshead father John 1786.

There are a numerous amount of Hoods / Hood families in, or from the villages and also the area around Northallerton, North Yorkshire, which is also near to the border with County of Durham.

Family Search, although it is a good tool, was I believe based on their IGI and Colin Blanshard Withers book, dealing with each Parish in each of the Yorks Ridings suggests that some Parishes had no IGI coverage?

We also have this Mariner aspect, so moving about too.

Considering, there were numerous George Hoods in Scotland (3 bapt around 1786, over a two year period) and George III was on the throne, I look at my 1992 IGI sheets and generally suspect, that there might be a few characters missing.

The Gateshead 1786 George Hood is the only nearest one and will probably be the one, but the free online Durham search, which has 1845 burials for Gateshead online, has no George Hood Sept 1845 burial.

Re our village Public House, official Wills were leaving the pub premises to children and a Grandson, who were not on IGI and Family Search. But who after hours of searching films, their baptisms were actually in our local Parish Registers.

Thank you for all your efforts.

Kind regards Mark

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #285 on: Monday 10 October 16 19:16 BST (UK) »
Big disappointment the surviving Bankrupt Indexes failed to give a lead.

I need a helpful Law Librarian, at one of the Legal Libraries to see if there was some type of report on the Richard Gibson case, taken and printed at the time.

Sometimes they will help serious researchers.

I'm going to do some background research on 'Striking a Docket', the 'Commission' process, as this Bankruptcy was not handled at the Leeds Bankruptcy Court.

John James, the Solicitor / Agent in the bankruptcy became the 'Secondary of the City of London' so we are talking about a young Solicitor who achieved high office in the City. It seems to be him, as the son of John James (later the Secondary), went to School in Grays Inn Place as a boy.

These type of Bankruptcies were sanctioned by the Lord Chancellor. In the Indexes, some cases of Bankrupts were being referred back to the Lord Chancellor for an opinion and quite long questions of several pages referring to a case were being explained to the Lord Chancellor, which were copied into the Register.

Sadly, I put everything relating to Gibson on. Richard Gibson must have complied and was discharged in 1810.

Some of these bankrupt cases, might stem from many types of dispute.

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #286 on: Monday 10 October 16 20:11 BST (UK) »
Think your posts, have partly beaten me to it, but spent some time to take the Ropery Lane, Sunderland inhabitants forward. Then I couldn't find a nearby neighbour in Silver St. in 1851 that still lived there in 1861, until in 1851 I met the late Wm Dodds aged 46 b.Monkwearmouth & Sarah Dodds, aged 38 b.Sunderland, right down the street and then worked back to No. 50 Silver Street in 1861 ...

I had not seen your posts, until I came back to post this ...

1841. Ropery Lane, Parish of Sunderland, Durham

Mary Hood, aged 50, Ind.
Thomas hood, aged 16, Shoem., App., Y [Y same county]
Catherine Hood, aged 12, Y
Sarah Hood, aged 9, Y
John Gibson, aged 27, Shoem., Y
Ann Gibson, aged 25, Y
Elizabeth Gibson, aged 5, Y
James Gibson, aged 1, Y



1851. 50 Silver Street, Sunderland

James Wood, Head, Marr., 64, Seaman, Yorkshire, Osmotherly
Mary Wood, Wife, aged 60, NtLand, No Shields
Ann Gibson, Daur, aged 33, Grocers Shop, Durham, Sunderland
Cath Wood, Daur, U, aged 23, Durham, Sunderland
Elizabeth Gibson, Gd Daur, aged 15, Durham, Sunderland
James Gibson, Gd Son, aged 11, Durham, Sunderland

Mary Gibson, Gd Daur, aged 7, Durham, Sunder’d
Daniel Fairhead, Lodger, widr, aged 26, Seaman, Suffolk, n.k.


1861. 50 Silver Street, Sunderland [Ten years later Wood, spelt Hood]
 
James Hood, Head, Mar., aged 68, Mariner (Mer Ser.), Yorkshire, Osmoutherly
Mary Hood, Wife, Mar., aged 68, Northumberland, Preston [Preston 1 mile N. of N. Shields]

Mark

Hello

Thank you dobfarm and Jomot, for your replies.

Think you missed my last post above dobfarm, previous page linking 1841 through to 1861...

Osmotherly Yorkshire, is one of about 10 Yorkshire places, on my radar for some time, as being around the right age to my George Hood of Selby, another Hood (John Hood) baptised Osmotherly ...

1851 Census Stranton
Village
John Hood, Head, Marr, aged 69, Ag. Lab, Yorkshire, Osmotherly.
Mary Hood, Wife, Marr, aged 61, born Yorkshire, Sands End

From my photocopies of Yorkshire, Hood 1992 IGI Fiche ...
John Hudd, baptised Osmotherly 8th December 1781, parents Thomas Hudd/Margret

Thomas Hood married Margrett Tyerman 14th January 1777 Osmotherley.

Looking at your recent image thank you (Reply 281), Thomas married twice.

A Sandsend on the coast W.N.W. of Whitby.

Regards Mark

EDIT:
1851, Aug. 17.
Re Hood of Stranton , Stockton. ...
During a violent thunderstorm, the lightning stuck the house of Mr. T. Hood, of Stranton, and killed Mrs. Hood.

The Durham Advertiser dated 22 August 1851
The Inquest was held at Stranton on the 19th, thunder storm was the previous Sunday. Jane wife of Thomas Hood of that place was 19 years of age and had been married nine months.

Inquest fairly detailed, bolt came through the window.

As a small boy, it was impressed time and again, close the windows and get away from the window during a lightning storm.
in red above

I put ---"Not sure what you are saying here ? can you elaborate on the meaning............................. of - as we need a George Hood baptism circa 1785 to 7 to link a place too something"

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Osmotherly Yorkshire, is one of about 10 Yorkshire places, on my radar for some time, as being around the right age (?)to my George Hood of Selby, another Hood (John Hood) baptised Osmotherly ...

Unquote:
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #287 on: Monday 10 October 16 20:51 BST (UK) »
Legals stuf is interesting and if documents can be found on R Gibson bankruptcy mentioning George Hood's postion could help- I agree!

Going back to normal ancestry searching recap ,

4 lines of possible ongoings

We have Blandford street 1863 lead Sunderland- Ropery lane Hood/Gibsons also other Hood's in 1861c census to check in Sunderland and James Hood mariner of Osmoutherly look for possible clues

Gibson's Ropery lane if any connection to Elizabeth Gibson wife of John Hood married 1779 Newcastle on Tyne.

Jenning Street Hull Cooper -namely Richard Hood mariner d 1838 Hull and Sarah Richardson b 1820 Selby residing Sculcoates Hull 1841c

Richard Gibson Selby





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