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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #270 on: Sunday 09 October 16 19:30 BST (UK) »
Thank you, I'm Ancestry 'punch-drunk' and been losing the plot for a while.

Managed to find the 1827 map indicating 'Ropery Lane' Sunderland.

Sorry, but it is not where the NLS map led us to believe it was.

http://valentine.dur.ac.uk/pip/iwspip.asp?img=p2387&ref1=2258

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #271 on: Sunday 09 October 16 20:15 BST (UK) »
I think we're slightly at cross-purposes.  The map I posted was to show where the children of James Hood were living in 1861 & 1871 in comparison to 34 Blandford Street, although I did incorrectly assume that the Ropery & Ropery Lane were the same area.

This view is the NLS map for the Ropery Lane area per your earlier map:
http://maps.nls.uk/view/102341485#zoom=6&lat=2284&lon=7916&layers=BT

This is the one I tried to link previously: http://maps.nls.uk/view/102341485#zoom=6&lat=1400&lon=6847&layers=BT

If you move it to the right you should see Lawrence Street crossing South Durham Street. Woodbine Street is two below Lawrence Street.

Oops - try left :-[
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #272 on: Sunday 09 October 16 20:57 BST (UK) »
I think you done a fine job Jomot sussing out these families, as for Ropery lane and Blandford Street not being back of one another, well inhabitants had legs and could walk.

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #273 on: Sunday 09 October 16 21:08 BST (UK) »
Another long shot

Can't find a marriage or death for George William Hood in uk
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George William Hood is on the land Tax 1810 Holbon (Near Grays Inn) ST SEPULCHRE,LONDON then disapears off the Land tax

Richard Gibson was residing in London 1810

William Hood first son of George & Sarah Hood bapt 16th May 1816


George William Hood   
 baptism    24 Aug 1783   
 Christening Place     ST SEPULCHRE,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND   
 Birth Date     26 Jul 1783   
 Father's Name    Daniel Hood     
 Mother's Name    Jane 




Grandson of George and Sarah Hood

George William Hood

burial:

14 August 1857

Selby, Brayton, York, England

Thanks for the above.

After William Hood's death at Selby in 1870, aged 54 years (William - first Selby bapt of George and Sarah Hood, nee Russell), Jane Hood (alias Jane Casson Hood) is mentioned in 1893 as living at Westfield in the Parish of Brayton.

But no George Hood Sept 1845 burial listed at Brayton.

However ...
"Info from Goughy Nathaniel Hood marr Anne Loftas in 1732 at Brayton"

Think Loftas (or its variant) has cropped up again in one of the related threads, I'll have to chk my notes.

Regards Mark

I was not referring to Bryton (Well know Bryton records have already been checked ) as a possible burial place for George Hood d 1845 Selby ---I put George William Hood burial 1857 to show the recurring name of George William Hood downstream in the Selby Hood family, also the significance of the name William to  George Hood d 1845 by naming his first son William in 1816.
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #274 on: Sunday 09 October 16 21:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Jomot and dobfarm,

Thank you.

Regards Mark 

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #275 on: Sunday 09 October 16 21:31 BST (UK) »
as for Ropery lane and Blandford Street not being back of one another, well inhabitants had legs and could walk.

Seems a heck of a coincidence if the families aren't connected that they should be so close... it looks further on the map, but its not much over half a mile.

Going back to the Gibson's living in the same house at Ropery Lane in 1841:

Mary Hood   F 50-54 Durham
Thomas Hood    M 16-20 Durham – App Shoemaker
Catherine Hood    F 12 Durham
Sarah Hood    F 9 Durham
John Gibson    M 27-31 Durham – Shoemaker Y
Ann Gibson    F 25-29 Durham  Y

Elizabeth Gibson    F 5 Durham Y
James Gibson    M 1 Durham

5 Oct 1835 - John Gibson m Ann Hood, Bishopwearmouth

John may be the John Gibson baptised 4 Jun 1812 at Sunderland, son of Joseph Gibson (mariner) & Agnes Appleby, but I haven't really looked beyond that.

In 1851 Ann, Elizabeth & James are at
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #276 on: Sunday 09 October 16 23:04 BST (UK) »
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGVM-PQP

James Wood could be Hood

Cath G Wood is Hood on 1841c or 1841c should have been Wood ?
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1851c Silver Street Sunderland

James Wood  64  Seaman -Oswotherly, Yorkshire
Mary Wood  60 North Shields, Northumberland
 Ann Gibson  33 -Crocers shop - Sunderland Durham
 Cath G Wood  23 ..............       "
 Elizabeth Gibson  15 ...........     "
 James Gibson  11 ...............      "
 Mary Gibson  7 ...............        "
 Daniel Fairhead  26 .............     NK Suffork

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From a tree in ancestry

  Marriage Record for James Hood and Mary Morrison
Category:  Portrait
Description:  Marriages solemnized in the Parish of Sunderland in the County of Durham in the Year 1818JAMES HOOD and...
Attached To:  James Hood (born 1787)

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #277 on: Monday 10 October 16 00:44 BST (UK) »
Cath G Wood has the G crossed out on the original - looks like the enumerator started to write Gibson and then changed it.

So if this James Wood / Hood is the father of Ann Gibson (formerly Hood) plus all of the other Hood children from the 1841 census, then he was born Osmotherley c1787 - meaning we are still missing the James Hood bap 1795 Tynemouth, s/o James Hood of All Saints & Ann Phillips of Hull.
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #278 on: Monday 10 October 16 01:22 BST (UK) »
Think your posts, have partly beaten me to it, but spent some time trying to take the Ropery Lane, Sunderland inhabitants forward. Then I couldn't find a nearby neighbour in Silver St. in 1851 that still lived there in 1861, until in 1851 I met the late Wm Dodds aged 46 b.Monkwearmouth & Sarah Dodds, aged 38 b.Sunderland, right down the street and then worked back to No. 50 Silver Street in 1861 ...

I had not seen your posts, until I came back to post this ...

1841. Ropery Lane, Parish of Sunderland, Durham

Mary Hood, aged 50, Ind.
Thomas hood, aged 16, Shoem., App., Y [Y same county]
Catherine Hood, aged 12, Y
Sarah Hood, aged 9, Y
John Gibson, aged 27, Shoem., Y
Ann Gibson, aged 25, Y
Elizabeth Gibson, aged 5, Y
James Gibson, aged 1, Y



1851. 50 Silver Street, Sunderland

James Wood, Head, Marr., 64, Seaman, Yorkshire, Osmotherly
Mary Wood, Wife, aged 60, NtLand, No Shields
Ann Gibson, Daur, aged 33, Grocers Shop, Durham, Sunderland
Cath Wood, Daur, U, aged 23, Durham, Sunderland
Elizabeth Gibson, Gd Daur, aged 15, Durham, Sunderland
James Gibson, Gd Son, aged 11, Durham, Sunderland

Mary Gibson, Gd Daur, aged 7, Durham, Sunder’d
Daniel Fairhead, Lodger, widr, aged 26, Seaman, Suffolk, n.k.


1861. 50 Silver Street, Sunderland [Ten years later Wood, spelt Hood]
 
James Hood, Head, Mar., aged 68, Mariner (Mer Ser.), Yorkshire, Osmoutherly
Mary Hood, Wife, Mar., aged 68, Northumberland, Preston [Preston 1 mile N. of N. Shields]

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