George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?

[dobfarm]

Hi Mark.

I don't think this George Hood age 30 upwards X  Isabella Robinson, age 21 marriage 1831 and the death of this George Hood died at Tarlogie in 1846 age 51. If it had been the other way round being 10 years before the Gateshead George Hood son of John Hood baptism 1786 , then he could have been born 10 years before his baptised. You have an age of birth years parameters 1795 to 1800 a good 9 to 14 years after the Gateshead George Hood baptism 1786.

 So its not confirmed.

 Facts are what is, not what one wants if the facts don't fit ones likings - hence cover all angles as and when.

1841 census being the first naming people as always been a bit iffy and who gave the enumerator the info/ same as death certificate age depending the person who register the death knowledge the deceased's true death age or not.

So! Its on record to go back too.and I fully understand you wanting to keep your mind on your present thoughts of research.


(I read somewhere you thought the Selby death of George Hood 1845 in the Quaker ground maybe was because the Abbey C of E would not have George buried in the Abbey graveyard? but George was involved in the parish being an Overseer also married as C of E 1815 . My opinion is it was Quaker Cassion Hood who got both George and Sarah (Russell) buried in the Quaker burial ground and thus George was seriously involved in the C of E Selby parish.)

One day something may turn up 

I had the same problem with my maternal umpteen Gt granddads back, Thomas Tidmarsh born 1771 ish back on the 1841census for Balsall in Warwickshire birth place Staffordshire, I could not find his baptism till I found his daughters marriage, her surname Tidmarsh but her father signed himself as witness Thomas Tidmash (no R) and I soon found his baptism Thomas Tidmash (No R) 1771 in Atherstone  and years later found a poor relief Oveseerers record in Balsall as Thomas Tidmas (no R or H) payment from Atherstone Parish Overseer (Parish of birth). So keep looking.

Dave

[BushInn1746]

Hello Dave

I'm just trying to keep an open mind.

Received the Will of Jonathan Hutchinson of Gedney [Sen'r], died 1st April 1835, Proved 1835 Lincs Cons. Court.

Seen both Jonathan Hutchinson Sen'r of Gedney and Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby, Jun'r, Wills, now.

1835 Will of Jonathan Hutchinson of Gedney ...
Mentions Three Sons:-
John Hutchinson,
Jonathan Hutchinson,
Procter Hutchinson.

Daughter:- Rachel Hutchinson.

Grandson:- Edward Neave son of Gundry Neave of Leiston in the County of Suffolk, Shopkeeper.

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The 1846 Calendar [Index] of Wills of the Prerogative Exchequer Court of York says:-
Lydia Neave (Wife of Gundry Neave) (formerly Lydia Hutchinson Spinster) of Leiston Co: Suffolk, Prog. A. 100 l.

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The two Wills (the other James Cockin of Luddington 1795) and three A4 pages of a Hood Pedigree just over £88.

But my health is no good for travelling or mixing. I suppose the reproduction cost probably would not be much different to two meals and the return train fare.

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I am awaiting two York Wills.

Mark

[BushInn1746]

Why the Hood Pedigree, which was a Line Tree (who didn't have many Sons) from John Hood of Craike, County of York, who married Radcliffe (The Family of Radcliffe, Earls of Derwentwater) and the Hood line to the early 20th Century, was in the Dixon documents, I have not found out.

Dixon, seemed to have a collection of Family Pedigrees.

Anyway, I definitely cannot see for the life of me, how a Tree on Ancestry, links John Hood of Pontefract and Knottingley, to this Hood family Pedigree at Kirkbridge, Yorks and Nettleham, Lincs., and Togher House, Ireland.

Especially, when John Hood of Pontefract and Knottingley, has an earlier marriage 12th October 1761 in the Parish of Pontefract to Sarah Thompson.

Mark

[BushInn1746]

Hello All

Just for information Dave.

I was most interested (to begin with) to find this Mrs Ann Hood, Widow, of Gateshead, on Family Search, Full Text Search.

Until I found this, which means she cannot go back to John Hood ...

Newcastle Courant, 15th January 1841

At Gateshead, in Grosvenor Street, on the 7th inst., aged 40, Mrs Ann Hood, relict of the late Mr Jabez Hood, spirit merchant, Newcastle.

Jabez Hood of the Close, Newcastle, was the Son of Robert Hood of The Bee Hive premises (per Newcastle Journal 9th & 16th February 1839), so she cannot link back to the Father, John Hood in the 1786 Baptism.

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I have a suspicion John Hood, Master of the Brig called the Mary of Inverness was from the North.

Added:
In 1814 there was a person called, J. Hood, sailing a vessel called Lizard, linked to Inverness or an Inverness Company.

Added:
I have an 1820 Scottish Will of the Ross Commissary Court, of James Hood of Cromarty, Ship Master.

Added:
Some of the Hood of Berwick, were also Masters and Sailors.


1828
Also that Elizabeth Selby Hood buried Newcastle in 1828, was the daughter of John Hood of Kilfinnan (newspaper notice), and also likely the Sister to John Hood, Factor, of the Estate at Glengarry, residing at Invergarry, Scotland and George Hood, Farmer, of Tarlogie, near Tain, Scotland.

1776
I have a Commander Jubb of the Brig, Mary, but very unlikely to be the same vessel, if from another Port or Harbour.

1776 The Brig, Mary, at "Bill Key" Newcastle, Captain, Philip Jubb, regarding Lauchlan Anderson of Cleash [Cleish?] Fifeshire, apprentice to Captain, Wharton Wilson

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I'm looking at yet another possible link by association, to John Turner, Grocer, of Selby (John Hood's Landlord at Selby) to Holliday of Wren Lane, sharing the premises with Richard Gibson.

1778 at Selby
John Halliday, Cordwainer married Mary Breasley, witnesses:- Hannah Gowland, Jno Todd and John Dickinson, Jun'r were witnesses.

1778 at Selby
Mary Halliday (newly married) is then present 6 months later at John Turner, Grocer, marriage to Hannah Gowland and both marriages have the same Todd and Dickinson witnesses.

Mark

[dobfarm]

Hi Mark

I thought! you were putting Newcastle upon Tyne stuff and Gateshead George Hood son of John Hood baptism Oct 1886 on the back burner to concentrate of your Selby Hood's connections Maudland Turner (Hood) to George and John Hood Mariner and other connections.

That Dickinson witness surname keeps popping up as witnesses over the decades 1776 to 1815 Selby.

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Quote your post ;
 
Newcastle Courant, 15th January 1841

At Gateshead, in Grosvenor Street, on the 7th inst., aged 40, Mrs Ann Hood, relict of the late Mr Jabez Hood, spirit merchant, Newcastle.

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Ann Hood > ? - aged 40 (born 1800 ish) in 1841 as you say - a bit late for connections to John Hood father of George baptism 1786

 Yet even later it still has the recurring connection to the alcohol  trade - ? (Exact year of baptism 1786 looking for you George and a possible innkeeper father John at the Ship inn both Gateshead 1786/1787- again the other pointer to of your George's trade brewing & barrels [Cooper])

 Those Hood's around the Ship inn, Roper makers, Anthony Hood the general businessman connections, then  Mrs Clark of the Ship inn Southshore connected to Sunderland - across the river Robert Hood Newcastle innkeeper who for a short time had the Kings Head inn Sunderland

Puzzler is still - What happened to John Hood Innkeeper of the Ship in Southshore Gateshead post 1787 - 1789 - did he move south to another pub/inn and his connections to the other Tyneside and possible Sunderland also South shields like Robert Hood innkeeper

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Yorkshire as a whole is a big county norther parts nearer to Sunderland and your George's son James being there in later years.

That 1841 Census George Hood  born this county (Yorkshire) or not - first full census taken - very iffy in all cases as to where born--- in or out of county

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John Spencer  ( suspected cooper ) Grocer Landlord of John Hood or John Turner Grocer Landlord of John Hood ?

Mauland Hood's husband was a Turner ( trade a  blacksmith ? ) - linked to  South Kirkby
and Spencers
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Blacksmith trade goes with cooper trade to make the steel rings around the barrels (Wren lane maybe)