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Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« Reply #144 on: Saturday 16 August 25 23:04 BST (UK) »
Yes, played a perfect yorker right enough, with George Hood, as the ball which could fly in any direction and leave us stumped!

And so many options, George Hood is like a ball and he just bounces in other ways too:-

1) George Hood could be Half Brother to Maudland Hood and therefore his family from Scarborough?

2) The 18th Century Hood events at Selby due to Nonconformism and no NC record keeping, the Hood family at Selby may have slipped underground (we also know of two earlier Hood of Selby buried in other Yorkshire Parishes 18th Century). Selby Parish Chest records are very incomplete too with large gaps.

3) The Newcastle upon Tyne angle and the fact Richard Gibson was from Newcastle. The 1779 John Hood = Elisabeth Gibson, marriage.

But, George could of lived at home, worked, saved and even purchased the business of Richard Gibson, Cooper, at Selby and got his training from the successful John Spencer, Grocer, (who may be the John Spencer, Cooper who trained later in life), but did die a Gentleman at Selby.

4) The earlier John Hood of Selby, being Apprenticed to John Herbert, a Barber Chirurgeon, at Wensley, North Yorkshire, in 1718, meaning one Hood of the old Selby line could have continued the family elsewhere in Yorkshire.

5) Perhaps the church didn't really want to bury G.H. in their Churchyard or would't give him full Service rites (perhaps George Hood of Selby had no baptism), so the Quakers offered, despite them refusing George Membership.

George Hood, you are Conscientious and we like you, but you don't quite fit with us. (That is how the 1836 Quaker Minutes read and the G.H. letter is not filed with others applying, not all seem to be kept).

6) Eliza Hord of Thorne would be 16 (in 1785) and could be old enough to be the Mother of George Hood, before she married?

1795
Henry Casson of Myton, Hull, Miller (Son of Mordecai Casson of Thorne, Currier & Sarah, deceased), married Elizabeth Hord (Daughter of Jeremiah Hord of Hull, Mariner, by Elizabeth, deceased), wits John Belton ; Edw West ; Mord: Casson Jun'r.

1796 28th July, Duty Paid on Apprentices
Mordecai Casson, Thorne, Co of York, Draper & c., John COCKIN [Apprentice]

7) Not knowing the mystery of Jane Hood of Selby, buried 1803 and if really a wife, where the marriage was.

8 ) The Sugar Tongs of the Son of a Hood of Selby with W.M.H., on them and mentioned in 1941 and do they point to a mystery Hood, or someone else. No explanation and the Beneficiary died a person claims Admin registered and when that Administrator dies she only has an Admin too (got both from HMCTS Probate Registry).

9) George Hood at Knottingley in 1813, and the previous Occupier with a possible link to a surname come across,

10) The £510 George Hood of Selby got Edward Parker to pay (on Hood's behalf) in 1836, to the Earl of Surrey, apparently for some Rights of Lord Petrie (relating to the 1835 property Sale it seems).

Those might be the unexplained Rights mentioned in Hood's Will and William Massey it seems had the benefit of the Rights while George Hood was alive.

11) When in 1815 at Selby Abbey, William Massey 23, [Jun'r] married (against his Quaker beliefs) to Mary Procter 22, a Hartas Grandchild carries Fothergill as a middle name and also one witness at the 1815 William Massey = Mary Procter, marriage was Jno Fothergill, and his one off unique signature can be identified in a later marriage and the marriage parties Birth can be found in the Census, confirming Fothergill to link to Mark Fothergill of Selby and Francis Fothergill of Aiskew and by marriages he links to William Frankland of Yafforth and to Hood of Kirkbridge.

You are dead right George Hood has played a 'Yorker', leaving numerous connection possibilities to literallby bounce him to numerous families, but without leaving the clinching piece required.

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There are 3 or 4 vessels called Mary linked to Newcastle, in Lloyd's Register, not one fits re Burthen Weight and with American built and not one vessel named Mary in a long list of Mary over several pages has a Hood as Master (same for several years). So I cannot establish an owner and possibly the owner location.

No earlier "Mary, Hood" ; in the Newcastle newspaper to match the 10 year vessel age.

The Newcastle newspaper only seems to be only selecting a few to publish in a paragraph, but when the list is published rarely in Newcastle it is more numerous and includes vessels at other places.

Mary is turning out to be the Marie Celeste of Newcastle upon Tyne / Shields  :(

Oh yes George Hood of Selby has left a stack of information about himself and his life and so many possible suggestive trails and little to confirm.

The Headstones of Gateshead St Mary were recorded a long time ago which was reprinted and Barbara Nelson was not listed.

Mark

Thanks, I had forgotten the 1781 John Hood & Martha Dean (Banns read only at Scarborough) but if they did become a couple it is not known.

There was a Martha Dean, Publican, in Mountain's 1800 Selby Directory, but she was already married I was led to believe.

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Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« Reply #145 on: Saturday 16 August 25 23:56 BST (UK) »
Yes, played a perfect yorker right enough, with George Hood, as the ball which could fly in any direction and leave us stumped!

And so many options, I could play George and he just bounces other ways too:-

1) George Hood is Half Brother to Maudland Hood and therefore from Scarborough.

2) The earlier 18th Century Hood events at Selby due to Nonconformism no NC record keeping so Hoods may have slipped the Hood family at Selby underground (we know of two Hood of Selby buried in other Yorkshire Parishes). Parish Chest records are very incomplete too.

3) The Newcastle upon Tyne angle and the fact Richard Gibson was from Newcastle.

George could of lived at home, worked, saved and purchased the business and got his training from the highly successful John Spencer, Grocer, who may be the John Spencer, Cooper who trained late in life and died a Gentleman.

4) The earlier John Hood of Selby, being Apprenticed to Mr Herbert, a Barber Surgeon, at Wensley, North Yorkshire, meaning one Hood of the old Selby line could have continued the family elsewhere in Yorkshire.

5) Perhaps the church didn't really want to bury G.H. in their Churchyard or would't give him full Service rites (perhaps George Hood had no baptism), so the Quakers offered, despite them refusing George Membership. Sorry Pal, you are Conscientious and we like you, but you don't quite fit with us. (That is how the 1836 Quaker Minutes read and the G.H. letter is not filed with others applying, not all seem to be kept).

6) Elizabeth Hord of Thorne would be 16 and could be his Mother and gave Birth to George.

The Apprentice with Hord Casson of Thorne, Apprentice was John COCKIN.

7) Not knowing the mystery of Jane Hood of Selby, buried 1803 and if really a wife, where the marriage was.

8 ) The Hood Sugar Tongs with W.M
H., on and do they point to a mystery Hood, or someone else. No explanation in the Will and the Beneficiary only has an Admin registered and when the Administrator dies she only has an Admin too (got both from HMCTS).

9) George Hood at Knottingley in 1813, and the previous Occupier with a possible link to a surname come across,

10) The £510 George Hood of Selby got Edward Parker to pay (on Hood's behalf) in 1836, to the Earl of Surrey, apparently for some Rights of Lord Petrie (relating to the 1835 property Sale it seems).

Those are the unexplained Rights mentioned in Hood's Will and William Massey had the benefit of the Rights for the life of George Hood.

11) When William Massey, Jun'r of Selby married in Selby Church (against his Quaker beliefs) to Mary Procter, a Hartas Grandchild carries Fothergill as a middle name and one witness at the Massey = Procter, marriage was    Fothergill, and his one off unique signature can be identified in a later marriage and the marriage parties Birth can be found in the Census, confirming Fothergill to link to Mark Fothergill of Aiskew and by marriage he links to Hood of Kirkbridge.

You are dead right George Hood has played a 'Yorker', leaving numerous connection possibilities to literallby bounce him to numerous families, but without leaving the clinching piece required.

 ---------------

There are 3 or 4 vessels called Mary linked to Newcastle, in Lloyd's Register, not one fits re Burthen Weight and with American built and not one vessel named Mary in a long list of Mary over several pages has a Hood as Master (same for several years). So I cannot establish an owner and possibly the owner location.

No earlier "Mary, Hood" ; in the Newcastle newspaper to match the 10 year vessel age.

The Newcastle newspaper only seems to be only selecting a few to publish in a paragraph, but when the list is published rarely in Newcastle it is more numerous and includes vessels at other places.

Mary is turning out to be the Marie Celeste of Newcastle upon Tyne / Shields  :(

Oh yes George Hood of Selby has left a stack of information about himself and his life and so many possible suggestive trails and little to confirm.

The Headstones of Gateshead St Mary were recorded a long time ago which was reprinted and Barbara Nelson was not afforded one.

Mark

And not forgetting Martha Dean - (If George Hood's father was John Hood of Selby then it father like son -  full of mystery) aswell as Jane Hood buried 1803 - one a possibley mother of George,
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Hi Mark,

With John Hood of being a mariner and post 1775 Elizabeth Hoods burial, no marriage found in the UK. There could be a marriage, Channel islands, Isle of man or abroad

In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth