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Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« Reply #162 on: Saturday 15 November 25 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Scott line of infestation finding clues sounds a good idea. (Stott)

Taking the clues you have from Richard Gibson Cooper bankrupt 1810 roots from Newcastle.

James Cockin witness on George Hood marriage 1815 Selby.

Maudland Hood husband Taylor from around South Kirkby/Hemsworth

That George Hood in Landtax records Snaith Knottingley 1813

The route link between the North East river Tyne, South Shields  Scarborough, Hull, ((Humber, Rivers Ouse / Trent) Selby, Ferrybridge, Wakefield, Doncaster Sheffield and Rotherham was inland waterways and sea.

South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire archives (West riding those days) seems to be a pace to search for publican records for John Hood innkeeper ship inn Gateshead post 1790. Though North Yorkshire (Riding) boarder comes south through Selby to near South Elmsall area.

I might have a sniff around archives next summer as I'm researching my Jackson's of Knottingley Beale. Kellington, Cawood & Selby all in leather trades, shoe makers, tanners and cordwainers.


https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=756955.288


That John Hood or Wood? innkeeper or publican of the Talbot Inn 1793 Bradford ? I think a search of Bradford schools in WYAS archives may be worth a look for 1790's George Hood of Selby would have been age 6 to 8 years old in 1793.








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Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« Reply #163 on: Tuesday 18 November 25 08:11 GMT (UK) »
Hello All

Dave, those Burrell & Scott etc. (last page), have not linked me to anyone previously discussed.

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But accidentally come across the Qualifying address for John Lionel Hood to Vote and it was not Newcastle nor Gateshead, but Dipton.

Dipton was near Collierley and found by chance, someone had posted a brief 19th Century history of Collierley online, Surtees seems to be one of the Landowners there.

Some bits about the surnames of Hood, Surtees, Scott and Lambton noted down here.

(I had forgotten, about the 1779 Elisabeth Lambton witness at the John Hood = Elisabeth Gibson, marriage).

Added:
We had looked at some of the Hood of Newcastle upon Tyne in the past.


3rd Add:
I managed to find some information about John Scott linked to the Surtees (mentioned in the link) and it was not the same John Scott, Waterman, marrying Eleanor Hood, Wid'w in 1775, Chapelry of All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne.

Reply #669
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.msg7584495#msg7584495


Added:
According to the 1755 transcribed Durham Marriage Bonds p.164 ...

1755
John Hood, All Saints, Widr = Isabel Surtees of St Nicholas

On the Bond it was claimed to say Anty Surtees of Medom her Father

Medom - Medomsley.


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« Reply #164 on: Friday 21 November 25 21:11 GMT (UK) »
I have been thinking, all these Hood Businesses at Gateshead and Newcastle would have taken some personnel and running:-

1811 Newcastle and Gateshead Directory
HOOD Ropemakers
Hood, Winship, and Co. South-shore.
Hood and Haggie, South-shore.

Wharfingers
Hood and Ryle, Quayside

Simpson's Pontop and Tanfield-moor, Wortley Main, Team, South-moor, Derwent Main, Garesfield, Denton Main, Gateshead, Gateshead-park, Sheriff-hill, Tynedale, Wylam-moor, and West Main.
Office Broad-chare.
Hood Elizabeth
[It seems they were suppliers to Collieries]

General Merchants
Hood & Co, Broad Chare, Newcastle upon Tyne.

Public House
Hood, Bee-hive, Close, Newcastle upon Tyne.

The New Flesh Market
Hood George, Butcher

[According to the Duty Paid on Apprentices in 1796 and newspaper notice of an 1814 Marriage, George Hood of Morpeth, trained as Butcher and was a Butcher at the time of his marriage, so the Butcher in the 1811 Directory is likely to be him, Father was Alexander].


London Gazette, 1st Dec'r 1812, Rope Makers
Notice is hereby given, that the Partnership heretofore carried on by Robert Hood and David Haggie, as Ropers, at Hillgate, in Gateshead, in the County of Durham, under the firm of Hood and Haggie, was dissolved, by the death of the said Robert Hood, on the 29th August last ; and the business hath since been carried on by the said David Haggie alone.- All debts due to and from the said Partnership will be received and paid by the said David Haggie, at the Ropery Office, in Hillgate aforesaid.- Dated this 2d November 1812.
David Haggie.
Robert Stodhart.
John L. Angas.
John Ryle.
Executors of Robert Hood, deceased.


London Gazette, 6th March 1813, Glass Makers
Notice is hereby given, that the Partnership heretofore carried on by John Robertson, George Sowerby, John Ryle, William Birkinshaw, and Robert Hood, in or near Pipewellgate, in the Parish of Gateshead, in the County of Durham, as Glass Manufacturers, was dissolved, as to the said William Birkinshaw, on the 3d day of August now last past, as to the said Robert Hood upon his decease, which happened on or about the 29th day of August now last past, and as between the said John Robertson, George Sowerby, and John Ryle on the day of the date hereof : As witness the bands of the said parties the 18th day of February 1813.
John Robertson.
Geo. Sowerby.
John Ryle.
William Birkinshaw.

John L. Angas,
Acting Executor of the said Robert Hood, deceased.


1811 Directory
Hood and Ryle, Quayside, Wharfingers.


Hood and Ryle, Quay, Wharfingers, from The Picture of Newcastle, p.294
WHARFINGERS .- Goods are forwarded to and from all places by the following wharfingers:
Nichol, Ludlow, & Co. High Crane.
Thomas Robson, Quay.
Joseph Snowball, Folly.
Thomas Snaith, Broad Chare.
Bradshaw and Hood, Quay.
Wm. Anderson and Son, Pilgrim Street.


Page 306 Additions and Corrections
Page 294. The present Wharfingers in Newcastle, are:
Nichol, Ludlow, & Co. High Crane
Thomas Robson. Quay.
Thomas Snaith, Broad Chare.
Hood and Ryle, Quay.
Wm. Anderson and Son, Pilgrim Street.
Coulson Hall, & Co. Quay.
J. H. Hudson, Quay.
William Thompson, Quay.
A part of this Impression is correct.



1815 London Gazette, 15th April
THE Partnership carried on by Elizabeth Wood, Taylor Winship, and George Henderson, as Coalfitters, Timber Merchants, and Ship Owners, in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, under the firm of A. Hood and Company, was the 31st day of December now last amicably dissolved, so far as regards the said Taylor Winship, and will be carried on by the remaining partners, under the firm of A. Wood and Company : As witness our hands the 2d day of January 1815.
E. Hood.
Taylor Winship.
Geo. Henderson.


1815 London Gazette, 18th April
In the Gazette of Saturday last; in the advertisement of a Dissolution of Partnership between E. Hood, Taylor Winship, and Geo. Henderson, for Wood, read Hood ;


1816 London Gazette
Notice is hereby given, that the Partnership carried on by Taylor Winship, Jonathan Sorsbie, William Harle, and, Henry Wright, as Rope-Makers, in the Town and County of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, and Gateshead, in the County of Durham, under the firm of Winship, Harle, and Co. was on the 11th day of May now last amicably dissolved .- All persons therefore who stand indebted to the said Partnership are requested to pay their respective debts to the said William Harle; and all persons who have any demands upon the said Partnership are requested to send in the particulars of their demands to the said William Harle, that they may be discharged : As witness their bands the 21st June 1816.
Taylor Winship.
Jon. Sorsbie.
Wm. Harle.
Henry Wright.


Many of the records of Hood and Haggie, Ropemakers, survive, I will enquire if they might list the personnel working for them around 1800.

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« Reply #165 on: Friday 21 November 25 21:37 GMT (UK) »
1842 London Gazette
NOTICE is hereby given, that the Partnership heretofore subsisting between and carried on by us, as Rope Manufacturers and General Merchants, at the South Shore, Gateshead, in the county of Durham, under the style or firm of D. Haggie and Son, was this day dissolved by mutual consent: As witness our hands this 19th day of August 1842.

D. Haggie.
Robert Hood Haggie
.


1843 London Gazette
NOTICE is hereby given, that the Partnership heretofore subsisting between us the undersigned Robert Hood Haggie, David Haggie the younger, and Peter Haggie, carrying on business at Gateshead South-shore, in the county of Durham, as Rope Makers and Chain Makers, under the style or firm of Haggie, Brothers, was, on the 10th day of June 1843, mutually dissolved, so far as regards the said Robert Hood Haggie: As witness our hands this 13th day of June 1843.

R. Hood Haggie.
David Haggie, junr.
Peter Haggie
.


Added:
1809 Newcastle-On-Tyne Postern Nonconformist
Births and Baptisms
Robert Hood Haggie Son of David and Jane Haggie of All Saints Newcastle upon Tyne.


I added a bit more about Taylor Winship in the last reply and had to put this bit here about George Fothergill


1817 London Gazette, 30th December
THE Creditors who have proved their Debts under a Commission of Bankrupt awarded and issued forth against George Fothergill, of the Town and County of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Ship-Owner, Merchant, Dealer and Chapman, are requested to meet the Assignees of the estate and effects of the said Bankrupt, on the 6th day of January next, at One o'Clock in the Afternoon, at the House of Mrs. Atkinson, the George Inn, in the Town and County of Newcastle upon-Tyne, to assent to or dissent from the said Assignees selling and disposing of the said Bankrupt's household goods and furniture, plate, linen, china, beds and bedding, either at public or private sale, or valuation, already or hereafter to be made, or of any other part of the said Bankrupt's estate and effects; and also to assent to or dissent from the said Assignees commencing, prosecuting, or defending any suit or suits at law or in equity, for the recovery of any part of the said Bankrupt's estate and effects, or to their compounding, submitting to arbitration, or otherwise agreeing thereto; especially to the compounding, submitting to arbitration, or agreeing the several accounts and transactions between the said Bankrupt and Taylor Winship, or between the said Bankrupt and the owners of the ships William, Neptune, Ann, Shirecliffe, and Captain Jackson, or any of them ; and on other special affairs.



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Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« Reply #166 on: Saturday 22 November 25 00:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mark
Re- Your post reply #164

Hi Mark,

Quote from your above post:

The New Flesh Market
Hood George, Butcher

[According to the Duty Paid on Apprentices in 1796 and newspaper notice of an 1814 Marriage, George Hood of Morpeth, trained as Butcher and was a Butcher at the time of his marriage, so the Butcher in the 1811 Directory is likely to be him, Father was Alexander].

Unquote:

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Are you saying ?. This 1811  Gateshead Directory The New Flesh Market - George Hood the Butcher father was Alexander Hood and if so ? this rules the George the butcher out as being the George Hood son of John Hood baptised oct 1786 Gateshead  ???

Dave  ???


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« Reply #167 on: Saturday 22 November 25 17:34 GMT (UK) »
Hello All

We have discussed this Robert Hood, deceased Will Proved 1812, also of Windmill Hills, in the Parish of Gateshead, before and in his Will he said his Father in Law is Peter Sinclair.

The parents of Robert Hood Haggie were David & Jane Haggie ( nee Sinclair ) so Robert Hood Haggie is a relative of Robert Hood, deceased.


Dave I am saying that due to

1814 St John in the Town & County of Newcastle upon Tyne
George Hood of the Parish of Morpeth, married Jane Searchwell of this Parish [St John, Newcastle]
Wits: John Burnup ; Jane Burnup


 ... and the newspaper Marriages notice (attached in previous recent reply) confirms he was a Butcher and George Hood of Morpeth trained as a Butcher. His Wife was from Newcastle, so George Hood of Morpeth may likely be the Butcher in the 1811 Directory at the Newcastle New Flesh Market.


Readable George Hood of Morpeth M.I., (information from an online photograph) suggesting the Father of G.H. of Morpeth was Alexander and information from newspapers posted here ...
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=818531.msg7581039#msg7581039

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We do have George Hood later of Tarlogie, Scotland, baptising a son John Hood in the neighbouring Parish of Jarrow (abode Hedworth) in 1832, but age of George at death was not a match for 1786.

But we also have a sailor John Hood giving his Birth as 19th August 1829 and place as Gateshead, possibly suggesting other Hood families.


I had gone as far as I could with Scott, so I thought I would look for new Hood at Gateshead, even though I still feel my George Hood was probably born Selby.


E. Hood / Elizabeth Hood seems is likely the Wife of Anthony Hood (both give their Office in Broad Chare).

I think we have discussed this Robert Hood (recently deceased) too.

We have looked at Hood and Ryle and the Stoddart link to the Hood family, too.


Robert Hood Haggie
1809 Newcastle-On-Tyne Postern Nonconformist
Births and Baptisms
Robert Hood Haggie Son of David and Jane Haggie of All Saints Newcastle upon Tyne.

Mark


ADDED:

Rope Making

George Hood, Tannery, Malt Kiln, Gowthorpe, Selby, when the Tan Yard was sold to Galsworthy, by the next owner Mary Jackson (1858 Rate Book, John Hood was then a Tanner Occupying). Mary Jackson (after Hood ownership) said the Yard had been used for Rope making.

The 1839 -1840 Selby Rate Book says George Hood had 5 named characters Occupying, one was a Tanner, but another was Widow Farrington.

Her name appears to be Mary Farrington.

A bit of research in the last few weeks 1841 Census shows Mary Farrington, 60, Rope Manufacturer, had moved to Market Place, Selby.

Mary Farrington died 1848 73 yrs and her Death Certificate, with S. Moxon, present at death, says Widow of Thomas Farrington, Twine Spinner.

Mary was nee Mary Adams.

When 'Hood's Yard' was owned and occupied by George Hood, Farrington a Rope Maker / Twine Spinner was also using part of the premises.


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« Reply #168 on: Monday 24 November 25 23:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mark.

Surnames associated to George Hood of Selby marriage 1815 to Sarah Russell & Bond allegation
Cockin
Newby
Sinclair notes  ?

Robert Hood Haggie ropemakers southshore mother maiden name Sinclair

Robert Hood publican/innkeeper in his Will 1812 has an in law Sinclair

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« Reply #169 on: Tuesday 25 November 25 08:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello All

Thanks Dave, Sinclair was the local C of E Minister at Selby in 1815.

2nd Add:
A 1791 Notice says John Wood, had transferred to the Tabot Inn, Bradford.


1815

TALBOT INN, BRADFORD.
REBECCA WOOD returns her grateful Thanks to the Nobility, Gentry, Commercial Travellers, and the Public in general, for the many favours conferred upon her late Husband during a period of upwards of Twenty-six Years ; and begs Leave respectfully to inform them, that she intends, with the Assistance of her Son, to keep open the above Inn, and as no Expence has been spared to render comfortable every Part of her House, she humbly hopes, by the most assiduous Attention to the Comfort and Convenience of those who may pleased to honour her House with their Company, to deserve their future Patronage and Support.
N.B. A well selected Stock of old Wines.-Neat Post Chaises, and able Horses.
Bradford, Sept. 30th, 1815.


Added:

1786 June
Charles Tatham

1791 August
John Wood ... has taken and entered to the Talbot Inn ...
(John Wood, Transferred from the Old King's Arms, Bradford).

A painting by Arthur North taken from a glass lantern slide ...
https://photos.bradfordmuseums.org/view-item?i=231707

The Talbot Inn, Bradford, was quite a building of significance, but replaced by a Victorian building.

4th Add:
York Herald, 23 December 1837
Serious Accident
One of the Chaise boys from the Talbot Inn, Bradford, turned out of Eccleshill Road into Broad-stones, in that town and was involved in a collision with Martha Rhodes ... three Surgeons are in attendance.
(From both papers, also in Halifax Express)

If someone is interested in Martha Rhodes, there is a short paragraph.

3rd Add:
A Mrs Wood, was still there in early 1838.

Next this, Leeds Mercury, 27th October 1838, p.7
The Talbot Inn, Bradford, an old-established house, was last week sold by auction for £7,100.


Nothing like the very modest Hood's Dram Shop, Wren Lane, Selby, in a cottage size building (also demolished). Although he owned several small dwelling houses in a row.

Mark