George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?

[BushInn1746]

Hello Dave and All

Thanks

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Mark

Did your ever find Elizabeth Spencer's (Leppington/Hood) baptism father John - died/buried 1775 Scarborough as I can't find a baptism in Scarborough 1720 to 1740 search

There's Elizabeth Spencer father John in South Kirkby 30th Dec 1736

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1) No, I have never thought of looking further afield for a baptism of nee Elizabeth Spencer / after 1st marriage Elizabeth Leppington and after 2nd marriage Elizabeth Hood.

Good point Dave, we have her age on the Scarborough Licence paperwork Elizabeth Leppington, Widow = John Hood.

2) Regarding John Spencer, Landlord at Selby from c.1791-2 (Landlord, previously John Turner, Grocer.)

Regarding his Sister Elizabeth baptised 1736, we can definitely rule her out ...

In the Will of John Spencer of Selby Proved 1810, he mentions his Sisters and Elizabeth being Elizabeth Collet and checking the marriages an Elizabeth Spencer = Richard Collett.

Mark

[BushInn1746]

Baptisms Elizabeth Spencer, Father John

1737 -/+ 5 years Yorkshire

On f m p

1734, 14th August at Keighley, Daughter of John Spencer, WEAVER. [Not a Mariner occupation per image]

1734, 3 December at Braithwell, Father GEORGE, so not the one, (printed Reg'r).

1735, 30th March at Bolton by Bowland, John Spencer of Holden.

1736, 23rd September, Leconfield, East Riding, Dau of John Spencer, (no place, nor Occ'n).

1736, South Kirkby, ruled out.

Bear in mind he was a Mariner and I don't know his Abode from Muster Rolls.

Mark

[dobfarm]

Hi Mark,
This Spencer surname -John Hood's wife Elizabeth Spencer, his mother Maudline Spencer, and his landlord John Spencer who happens to be a grocer/cooper, in the same property John Hood's first landlord was a Turner same surname as his son in law. ( Spencer is a common surname though.)

Who brought Maudland up a from 1775  if John Hood was at sea for long periods is another mystery

Elizabeth Spencer family mother or sister, or her first husbands Leppington family could have brought her up.


Dave 

[carolgenealogy1970]

The 1736 South Kirkby baptism for Elizabeth Spencer (father John) is a solid lead but has been ruled out—she married Richard Collett and is confirmed in her brother John Spencer’s 1810 Selby will as “Elizabeth Collett.” So not our Elizabeth (Hood).

Next best steps are:
・Search FamilySearch baptisms 1720–1740 (https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1473014)
・Get Catherine Spencer’s 1782 will from TNA (https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D430960)
・Check Borthwick/FindMyPast for a 1775 John Spencer (Scarborough) probate and try the Yorkshire region via YourRoots county records: https://yourroots.com/search-record/state-province-county

Hello Dave and All

Thanks

Quote

Mark

Did your ever find Elizabeth Spencer's (Leppington/Hood) baptism father John - died/buried 1775 Scarborough as I can't find a baptism in Scarborough 1720 to 1740 search

There's Elizabeth Spencer father John in South Kirkby 30th Dec 1736

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1) No, I have never thought of looking further afield for a baptism of nee Elizabeth Spencer / after 1st marriage Elizabeth Leppington and after 2nd marriage Elizabeth Hood.

Good point Dave, we have her age on the Scarborough Licence paperwork Elizabeth Leppington, Widow = John Hood.

2) Regarding John Spencer, Landlord at Selby from c.1791-2 (Landlord, previously John Turner, Grocer.)

Regarding his Sister Elizabeth baptised 1736, we can definitely rule her out ...

In the Will of John Spencer of Selby Proved 1810, he mentions his Sisters and Elizabeth being Elizabeth Collet and checking the marriages an Elizabeth Spencer = Richard Collett.

Mark

[dobfarm]

Mark

I've ruled Elizabeth Spencer father John baptism in South Kirkby 30th Dec 1736 out as sister to John Spencer the Grocer/cooper as his sister Elizabeth Spencer married a Mr Collett as stated  in John Spencer's will 1810 Selby as you say .

Are you saying you think Elizabeth Spencer baptised 30th Dec 1736 father John  of South Kirkby was the Elizabeth  Spencer who married Mr Collet sister of John Spencer Spencer of Selby buried 1809 - His Will dated 1810

Hence - Elizabeth Spencer father John baptism in South Kirkby 30th Dec 1736 is eliminated as being Elizabeth Spencer widow Leppington who married John Hood Scarborough 1763 and resided later in Selby
 


Dave 

[dobfarm]

 Hi carolgenealogy1970

Thanks for your suggested researching links and methods of research which will be useful in Mark's long ongoing research for his ancestor George Hood birth circa 1785/1787 of Selby

Dobby 

[BushInn1746]

Hello Carol

Thank you.

This is one M.I. I have from Scarborough St Marys, published by the East Yorks, Family History Society ...

The Scarborough St Mary's Churchyard M.I. ...

Head Stone -
Sacred/
to the Memory of/
MARY the wife of/
JOHN SPENCER/
who departed this life/
August (?g) 18??/
aged (33 or 83) years.


Catherine Spencer of Scarborough, Will 1782 and Spencer v. Spencer, Chancery Case

Regarding 1782 Catherine Spencer of Scarborough, PCC Will, see these links and her estranged family it seems live in the City of Durham:-

Reply #2 under Sub-title Spencer
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=782732.msg6722134#msg6722134

Spencer of Scarborough (For reference Jane Spencer; Thomas Paxton Spencer)
Catherine Spencer, Wife, of Scarborough, 1782 PCC Will, there is a Chancery case Spencer v. Spencer 1800

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=yXADAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA362&lpg=PA362&dq=%22Catherine+Spencer%22+Will+1782&source=bl&ots=XKMMTRtbg9&sig=UEVKYK6Qa7mt-fI-MCBvKjQmrmk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjenJiKl6DWAhVFAsAKHezkDuMQ6AEIJTAD


Will of Catherine Spencer, Wife of Scarborough (from TNA), 1782
... my late Uncle Henry Rowe, late of Bloomsbury Square, London, Esquire ...
... Wife of Robert Spencer of Scarborough in the county of York ...
... Mother in Law Mary Spencer ...
... my Son Thomas Paxton Spencer ...
... my Son Hutton Rowe Spencer ...
... my Sister Jane Rowe ...
... my Brother Anthony Rowe ...
... my Husband Robert Spencer ...

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D622184

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Wills purchased already (from the Borthwick) who married into two HOOD of Scarborough families (Thomas CRAVEN - Married Sarah HOOD 18th Cent'y) and the (Matthew HILL married Mary HOOD 1818 Scarborough,  Admin to Matthew HILL 1855).

Thomas Craven, Will, Written 1816
I knew he had remarried a Rebecca. Quite a reasonable Will for next of kin, but he didn't leave anything to his late wife, Sarah Hood's family.

Mary Hill (nee Hood)
Mary Hill buried 26 Dec 1853, 57, Wife of Matthew, on a stone left at the Ebeneezer Chapel, Longwestgate, stated to have been demolished 1957.

John Spencer, Yorkshire Wills
The John Spencer, Will list I have for Yorkshire is numerous, I'll have to work out which to order first.

I have been through the Scarborough Register images on FindMyPast and it is difficult to decide if Maudland Turner's Spencer Grandparents even died at Scarborough.

I did find a possibly doubtful burial in a village near Scarborough, I'm off to find and recheck some notes, but it wasn't quite the same as the above headstone, but the accuracy of the M.I., looks iffy.

We only know the Grandfather of Maudland Turner (nee Hood) of Selby, baptised Scarborough, was John Spencer of Scarborough, Mariner.

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SPENCER of Selby and Scarborough WILL and Admin Summaries

We have done the 18th Century, Spencer of Scarborough at the Borthwick some years ago, Wills and Admins.

1703/4 James SPENCER of Scarborough, Admin Dickering 3 Jan 1703/4 (Dickering Deanery) MF1177 ... to Marie SPENCER.

Richard SPENCER of Scarborough, Mariner, Dec 1746, Admin. (Dickering Deanery), widow named and renounced, see link

1785 Richard Spencer of Scarborough, a Will, see link below.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=789795.0

Mark

The 1736 South Kirkby baptism for Elizabeth Spencer (father John) is a solid lead but has been ruled out—she married Richard Collett and is confirmed in her brother John Spencer’s 1810 Selby will as “Elizabeth Collett.” So not our Elizabeth (Hood).

Next best steps are:
・Search FamilySearch baptisms 1720–1740 (https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1473014)
・Get Catherine Spencer’s 1782 will from TNA (https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D430960)
・Check Borthwick/FindMyPast for a 1775 John Spencer (Scarborough) probate and try the Yorkshire region via YourRoots county records: https://yourroots.com/search-record/state-province-county

Hello Dave and All

Thanks

Quote

Mark

Did your ever find Elizabeth Spencer's (Leppington/Hood) baptism father John - died/buried 1775 Scarborough as I can't find a baptism in Scarborough 1720 to 1740 search

There's Elizabeth Spencer father John in South Kirkby 30th Dec 1736

Unquote

1) No, I have never thought of looking further afield for a baptism of nee Elizabeth Spencer / after 1st marriage Elizabeth Leppington and after 2nd marriage Elizabeth Hood.

Good point Dave, we have her age on the Scarborough Licence paperwork Elizabeth Leppington, Widow = John Hood.

2) Regarding John Spencer, Landlord at Selby from c.1791-2 (Landlord, previously John Turner, Grocer.)

Regarding his Sister Elizabeth baptised 1736, we can definitely rule her out ...

In the Will of John Spencer of Selby Proved 1810, he mentions his Sisters and Elizabeth being Elizabeth Collet and checking the marriages an Elizabeth Spencer = Richard Collett.

Mark

[dobfarm]

Thanks, but not known if old George Hood of Scarborough, Mariner born about 1708 and Maudlin born about 1710 (parents of John Hood buried Selby 1819) and George Hood the possible Father of Joshua Hood born Newcastle upon Tyne are the same George.

Mark

John Hood innkeeper Ship Inn - property?

If memory serves me right Mrs Clark (Maybe nee Margaret Hood) then later A Hood company


https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754237.msg6832025#msg6832025

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754237.msg6813911#msg6813911

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.msg7674073#msg7674073

William Hood Will 1788 -James Wardle ?

Wardle surname keeps popping up in Yorkshire in your notes

[BushInn1746]

Hello Dave and All

Thanks for the comments, struggling to keep up, as I am persuing several other leads as well.

I am trying to exhaust the Selby, Yorkshire, end first, that is where George Hood, seems to have got his first property after leaving home, renting from Lord Petre. Not all of us left home at 21 you know 

Once we handed over our housekeeping money, we could save. I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth, it was years of work and saving.

Richard Spencer of Scarborough, County of York Taylor, April 1785, Will
 ... appointed Elijah Winn of Scarborough Gentleman ... Executor
 ... my Grand Daughter Temperence Spencer
 ... following were bequeathed sums of money
 ... Reverend Samuel Bottomley
 ... my Step-Daughter Jane Smithson
 ... my kinswoman Martha Potch [or Martha Petch]
 ... my kinsman Thomas Clarkson ...
Upon Trust that he or they do pay and apply the same unto and for the only use and benefit of
my unfortunate Niece Ann Spruce ...
Mark & Seal 10 March 1785 of Richard Spencer
Witnesses M or W or H Mc George
Galf'us Jas Mc George
Past 7 April 1785 [sic]


Not too unfortunate because an Ann Spruce of Scarborough appears to have left a Will 

The Will has been quoted for and is now ordered (currently up to 30 day wait) with a Cockin of Barnby Dunn, Will (possibly too early, but may give an insight into that family).

The other interesting thing is, that according to some documents listed by the Yorkshire Archaeology Society (YAS) on a pdf, many of them, now in the Leeds University Special Collections, an Elizabeth Hood was a Tenant of Elijah Winn of Scarborough and he was the executor of the Will of Richard Spencer of Scarborough.

I cannot locate the relevant YAS Handlist of Deeds online pdf at the moment.

But in my searches, I have discovered that Leeds University have started scanning the documents to go online it would seem ...

https://digital.library.leeds.ac.uk/

Link to another Deed image example featured which can be opened and read

https://digital.library.leeds.ac.uk/32779/

Mark