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Re: ScotlandsPeople (New website now live).
« Reply #261 on: Wednesday 05 October 16 19:52 BST (UK) »
Oh Dear...this is not good. Statutory death searching on: surname 'Jolly' forename 'Diana' other name 'Rae' - brings up two entries (both of which I have previously purchased). One woman is called Diana Jolly (ms Christison) the other is Diana Nicol (ms Rae)...one has no mention of Rae the other has no mention of Jolly. Looks like it's searching using 'or' instead of 'and' which in this instance is about as much use as a chocolate fire guard. If you drop out Diana - you then get all the Jolly deaths plus all the Rae deaths that's a total of 4178.

I'm going to report this to SP and ask for a consultancy fee!
Jen  :)

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FEARN, McKenzie, Stirling [brick wall], Robb, Wilson, Stott
RUSSELL, Fullerton, Christie, Cochrane, Davidson, Coutts, Easton, Scott
FRASER, Henderson, Noble, Mundie, Goodall, Thain, Neish, Moir

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Re: ScotlandsPeople (New website now live).
« Reply #262 on: Wednesday 05 October 16 20:46 BST (UK) »
Jenny, I read yesterday (on one of the links from SP that you posted Gadget) that it is not currently possible to search for married women's deaths with the additional surname.

Monica
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Re: ScotlandsPeople (New website now live).
« Reply #263 on: Wednesday 05 October 16 20:48 BST (UK) »
Not sure if it has been mentioned so far but the 1881 LDS Census transcriptions are free to view.
ev

Were they not free before EV ?
Rosie

No, they weren't free to view but were reduced to 2 units I believe. They were a transcript not an original image.

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Re: ScotlandsPeople (New website now live).
« Reply #264 on: Wednesday 05 October 16 20:59 BST (UK) »
The searches available have been greatly reduced. You can no longer
- search for marriages before 1929 using both surnames
- search for marriages using the spouse's forename
- search for deaths using a year of birth plus or minus a range of years
- search for married women using both their maiden and their married surnames
all of which were possible on the old site.

Worse, if you try to search using these parameters, you will get a result saying, "Sorry, there are no results for your search." This statement may be wrong, as there may well be results for that search that have not been recognised, so this statement is directly misleading.

Also, if you have any searches saved that were done using the above parameters, and you look at them again now, you will get a nil return, even though you got a positive result before.

Very disappointing. 
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.


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Re: ScotlandsPeople (New website now live).
« Reply #265 on: Thursday 06 October 16 00:07 BST (UK) »
SP never responded to my email Re Worldpay but I figured it out for myself.
3d secure means that the name on the billing page MUST now match to the exact name on the Credit Card.

My billing page defaulted to as it has aways been.... Anne XXX
My CC shows Mrs A XXX

It was never flagged before but... I'll know in future !

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Re: ScotlandsPeople (New website now live).
« Reply #266 on: Thursday 06 October 16 00:10 BST (UK) »
SP never responded to my email Re Worldpay but I figured it out for myself.
3d secure means that the name on the billing page MUST now match to the exact name on the Credit Card.

My billing page defaulted to as it has aways been.... Anne XXX
My CC shows Mrs A XXX

It was never flagged before but... I'll know in future !

Interesting, I never include my full name online for a CC payment and my CC company has never refused a payment.  Part of the reason is security, if in a worst case scenario someone picked up the details, they wouldn't get my full name from the card and I would know the source of a the fraudulent payment was an online payment.  If I've now got to include it in full, I lose that little trick. :-\
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Re: ScotlandsPeople (New website now live).
« Reply #267 on: Thursday 06 October 16 01:06 BST (UK) »
It's quite depressing reading this thread and finding out about all the sneaky little changes they've made and the errors that the site now has.

It was almost perfect before! Yes, it could have done with a slight freshen up, but I didn't realise that they would make so many detrimental changes. Very sad.

The trouble is that they have us by the short and curlies, and we have no choice but to use SP. They know this, and have redesigned the site accordingly.  >:(


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Re: ScotlandsPeople (New website now live).
« Reply #268 on: Thursday 06 October 16 04:23 BST (UK) »
Jenny, I read yesterday (on one of the links from SP that you posted Gadget) that it is not currently possible to search for married women's deaths with the additional surname.

Monica

Hmmm, Monica,

I suppose this facility has now been withdrawn?

What's the need?

Maybe if we all send our email complaints, things will change?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: ScotlandsPeople (New website now live).
« Reply #269 on: Thursday 06 October 16 05:17 BST (UK) »
Jenny, I read yesterday (on one of the links from SP that you posted Gadget) that it is not currently possible to search for married women's deaths with the additional surname.

Monica

Monica,

I have just tried that.

I put in my mother by forename & surname, added "other surname" which was her m/s then mother's m/s & it came up.

I didn't use any dates "from/to" as my mother's m/s was/is rare as was her mother's m/s.

From 1855 - 2016 there were only 2 entries, both for my mother (marital & maiden surnames)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"