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Re: can some one find his parents , sibblings etc
« Reply #81 on: Saturday 20 August 16 09:29 BST (UK) »
Is there any possibility that Wilfred was in fact illegitimate?  Is that why the father's information seems a bit odd because it was made up?
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England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: can some one find his parents , sibblings etc
« Reply #82 on: Saturday 20 August 16 09:36 BST (UK) »

I had thought that myself girl guide, could be why we can't find anything.

Perhaps his mother/parents were not married when he was born. He could be registered as ' Blogs' and mum may have married Mr Smith at a later date.

There are different scenarios to consider here.
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Re: can some one find his parents , sibblings etc
« Reply #83 on: Saturday 20 August 16 09:43 BST (UK) »
i realy dont know but i must admit that it crossed my mind also , but i cant find a birth for him so i cant send for his record to see , all i know is what is on his marriage

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Re: can some one find his parents , sibblings etc
« Reply #84 on: Saturday 20 August 16 21:56 BST (UK) »
Found him in 1939, I don't know how much detail I can post,  but if you search for Ellen Smith, date of birth 14 Jan 1882 (this is actually the date of birth of the man next door but it has been transcribed as Ellen's) you should find Walter, although he doesn't appear in the transcription.
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Stockton, Watson, Bage, Nellist N. Yorks
Challnor/Challoner Cheshire/Shropshire. Moore, Mansell: Wellington, Shropshire
Davies/ David, Coity, Glamorgan
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Re: can some one find his parents , sibblings etc
« Reply #85 on: Saturday 20 August 16 22:27 BST (UK) »
Congratulations Angelfish.  I have had a look and it is indeed the right Wilfred.  The date of birth is spot on and occupation is locomotive fireman.  There is a start of what I take to be his place of work but not positive of that - (Colling.....   Collingwood perhaps.  Not familiar with the area.

Address is in the Easington district, another plus.

Underneath Ellen someone is down as This record is officially closed.  I'm betting it is probably Doris as in theory she could be still alive.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: can some one find his parents , sibblings etc
« Reply #86 on: Saturday 20 August 16 22:39 BST (UK) »
Thank you ;). I think it says colliery but it's not very clear. I've just realised I put Walter in my last post instead of Wilfred  ::)
Watson, Snowball, Pyburn, Heppell, Ferry, Holmes, Clennett, Kidd, Pescod, Bage Co.Duham & Northumberland
Stockton, Watson, Bage, Nellist N. Yorks
Challnor/Challoner Cheshire/Shropshire. Moore, Mansell: Wellington, Shropshire
Davies/ David, Coity, Glamorgan
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Re: can some one find his parents , sibblings etc
« Reply #87 on: Saturday 20 August 16 23:12 BST (UK) »
Well done angelfish58

Right, if his DoB is 13 Dec 1896, then one of the below is the OP's Wilfred... just which one ?

Smith    Wilfred        Sheffield   **** not him died 15th Nov. 1896 buried 18th Nov. Sheffield
Smith    Wilfred        Tadcaster
Smith    Wilfred Allin        Mansfield   
Smith    Wilfred Charles     Burton   
Smith    Wilfred Downing R     Mitford   
Smith    Wilfred George     Cardiff **** not him birth and death reg. Cardiff  4th Qtr. 1896   
Smith    Wilfred Graham     Wirral  ****not him born 28th Oct 1896 from death reg. in 1972
Smith    Wilfred Harry        Ashton   
Smith    Wilfred Henry        Ashby Z.   ****not him born 22 Nov. 1896 from death reg. 1989
Smith    Wilfred John        Stoke D.   
Smith    Wilfred Meredith   Farnham   
Smith    Wilfred Percival    Newport, M.   
Smith    Wilfred Vaughan     Guisbro'  **** not him, died age 24 in Marske 1924
Smith    Wilfred               Greenwich   
Smith    Wilfred               S. Shields   
Smith    Wilfred               Stockton   
Smith    Wilfred               Malton  ***** not him born 5th Jan 1897   
Smith    Wilfred Edmund   Bakewell **** born 8 Dec. 1896, bpt. Jan 1897 died Notts. 1977
Smith    Wilfred Leslie        Sculcoates

Any ideas how to eliminate them ? ;D ~ All births taken from 4th Qtr 1896 and 1st Qtr 1897
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Re: can some one find his parents , sibblings etc
« Reply #88 on: Saturday 20 August 16 23:14 BST (UK) »
I think if we can find some baptisms before Wilfreds birthdate of any of them, we could eliminate a couple
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Re: can some one find his parents , sibblings etc
« Reply #89 on: Saturday 20 August 16 23:18 BST (UK) »
I got the impression from an earlier post that he was plain Wilfred, so that would cut out any with second names.

I think there was also mention of him having a Geordie accent so that would suggest he came from the north somewhere.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire