can some one find his parents , sibblings etc

[..claire..]

The Wilfred Smith living in Askham Bryan with father Frederick has an army record on Anc*. When he enlisted his father was a Frederick Luke Smith (next of kin). This Wilfrid was a Bank Clerk on enlistment, no middle name on enlistment.

Maybe worth checking through that for any possible clues, or if there is a pension record.

Sorry can't be of much help, I'm currently on my phone but hopefully someone can check these records for you.

[oldhippyone]

thank you but thats a big drop to a locomotion driver from a bank clerk so i doubt if this is mine

[Girl Guide]

I've been kind of getting my brain whirring.  Do you have the marriage certificate for his daughter Doris?  If so what is her address at the time of marriage?

You could then do an electoral roll check on that address to see if her dad was living at the same address.  If he was then I think you may be able to trace his railway record using that address.

If I have understood the information correctly an address will help in verifying which railway company he is most likely to have worked for.  You could then either contact the National Railway Museum in York or the National Archives and ask their advice as to which company he could have worked for. Then hopefully search for employee records for that company.

Worth a try do you think?

[oldhippyone]

Wilfred was with his daughter in 1953 living at ymca saville row newcastle , the info is on this thread but 1953 was the only year he was with her she was there 1952 1951 it was hear that it says wilfred H smith

[oldhippyone]

Wilfreds daughters address on marriage was ymca saville row newcastle

[Girl Guide]

Ok so Newcastle could be a starting point to find out which railway company he could have worked for in the 1950s.

My knowledge of train companies is not great so perhaps you may wish to follow up my suggestion re National Railway Museum and National Archives.

[oldhippyone]

I have just looked at my notes on wilfred from years ago ,, in ymca with doris is NOT wilfred but WINIFRED smith that was 1953 also jean chapelhow , in 1952 doris smith with hilda smith , in 1951 doris smith with hilda smith all at ymca newcastle , but doris smith was the only child of wilfred and ellen birth june 1925 easington

[Girl Guide]

Oh my and presumably no idea who Winifred and Hilda are.

Ok how about the death of a Wilfred in 1975.  Is this a death certificate that you have?  If so who was the informant?

If you don't have this certificate then you may wish to consider obtaining it.

[oldhippyone]

Just had a email off my sister she said the certificate of marrage she has for wilfred and ellen spry was 1 jan 1923 at dalton le dale witness thomas ward and lilian spry and wilfred was a miner , yet onthe marriage of there daughter doris spry smith to my dad wilfred was a locomotion driver and i have wilfred and ellen ,s marriage as march 1923 easington re wilfreds death the informant was his daughter so something has gone wrong , which is the right marriageand occupation for wilfred