Joseph Hulbert (c. 1793-1878) Huguenot or not?

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Looking for birth information on my great x5 grandfather Joseph Hulbert born circa 1793 in, I believe, St Leonard's Shoreditch. He married Ann Butfoy in 1813 and they lived and had children in Bethnal Green (my line is through their daughter Emma Hulbert Sheen).

BUTFOY is a Huguenot name, and I can trace that line right back to 1615 France. There are family rumours that HULBERT is French or German. I am trying to figure out where the HULBERTs came from and if they were also Huguenots. So any help finding Joseph's parents would be very appreciated.

There may have been a variation in spelling such as HOULBERT, HOLBERT or HOLDEBERT which might explain why I am having so much trouble.

Thanks in advance!

[Lily M]

There's Joseph Holbert born 17/4/1792 baptised 17/6/1793

St.Leonards, Shoreditch    Parents Joseph and Elisabeth

Living in Motley Street

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There's Joseph Holbert born 17/4/1792 baptised 17/6/1793

St.Leonards, Shoreditch    Parents Joseph and Elisabeth

Living in Motley Street

Thank you Lily!

That is so good to know. Now I am on the hunt for Joseph and Elisabeth Holbert.

If anyone can help me with finding more children from them or even their marriage records that would be incredible. I really want to know if the Hulberts/Holberts were Huguenots.

tassiedevil97

[Lily M]

There's a George Hulbert bap. 1794 and Elizabeth 1797 both baptised St.Leonards, Shoreditch

And James Hulbert bap. 1800 Bethnal Green

There's also Mary Ann born 1788 at the Lying in Hospital, Holborn - parents Joseph (a baker) and Elizabeth - who it states comes from ??  (It looks like Dotchet, Bucks, but there doesn't seem to be any such place.  It's not at all clear)

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There's a George Hulbert bap. 1794 and Elizabeth 1797 both baptised St.Leonards, Shoreditch

And James Hulbert bap. 1800 Bethnal Green

There's also Mary Ann born 1788 at the Lying in Hospital, Holborn - parents Joseph (a baker) and Elizabeth - who it states comes from ??  (It looks like Dotchet, Bucks, but there doesn't seem to be any such place.  It's not at all clear)

Thank you again!

Probably is Datchet, Bucks as in Buckinghamshire (which Datchet was a part of). I'm not too sure if there were many Huguenots in Datchet around that time. I don't think so. Looking like Elisabeth or even Joseph may not be Huguenot after all.

Struggling so much with this line!

[Lily M]

I think Mary Ann probably isn't a child of your Joseph and Elisabeth.

Too much of an age gap.

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Yes I think you are right! I have just realised this myself.

Can you find anything about this marriage? Anything that might record the parents of Joseph? It might give us some clues

Ann Hulbert (born Butfoy) and Joseph Hulbert
married Apr 11 1813
Stepney/Tower Hamlets, Middlesex, England

Also it is worth noting that this Joseph was a silk weaver (common Huguenot trade). I am confused as to whether or not this man is from a Huguenot family or just married a Huguenot woman...

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Hi, Just for info but?
1. Joseph Hulbert married Elizabeth Nash 6.12.1778 st james westminster
2.William Hulbert son of Joseph Hubert and Annie BUTFRY died 1.1.1899 aged 81 Salt Lake City s l Utah- occ trunk maker. He was a widower.

John

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The Admission Registers for the French Protestant Hospital (transcript published by the Huguenot Society) have entries for Eliza Hudswell nee Hulbert and Christiana Jackson nee Hulbert.  The details suggest both were admitted because of their mother being a descendant of the Butfoy refugee family.  There is no mention of their father also being descended from Huguenot or Walloon refugees, normally details would be included if both parent's had eligibility.

While many Huguenots and Walloons were silk weavers, it was also a profession practiced by other non-French protestant families.  I have a number that weren't, as well as some that have proven to be, so while it is a clue, it doesn't mean that will definitely be the case.