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Hagan's in Adelaide, SA
« on: Friday 12 August 16 07:30 BST (UK) »
Hi,

John Hagan was a soldier who travelled from the UK to Australia with his family in the mid 1840's.

I suspect they travelled to different parts of Australia, especially Tasmania, however, I am mainly trying to find out details of the families first and most significant trip to Adelaide.

My curent theory (and I could be wrong) is that John Hagan travelled from Hobart and Launceston, Van Diemen's Land, on the "Brankenmoor" as part of the 11th Regiment and arrived in South Australia in April 1846.

The ship put in at Encounter Bay, SA due to rough weather on 27 April 1846. The detachment consisted of 4 officers + 90 rank and file accompanied by 12 wives and 25 children. Some made their way overland -"The Brankenmoor, from Hobart town, which put into Encounter Bay through stress of weather, has landed the troops and passengers from Launceston, who are severally on their way up by land.". [Register, Sat,2 May, 1846, p. 2] and some came later when things settled down -

"THE“BRANKENMOOR” This ship came round from Encounter Bay, where she put in, in stress of weather, on Monday last, with a detachment of the 11th Regiment, from Hobart Town, to replace the 96th ordered hence to Van Diemen’s Land."

Any evidence of any Hagan's being on board?
Or maybe another ship, another time?
While I do have evidence they lived in Adelaide (marriages of children etc) is there any evidence of their actual arrival in Adelaide on or around 1846?

Thanks,
Rob.

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Re: Hagan's in Adelaide, SA
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 August 16 08:06 BST (UK) »

What is the earliest sighting you have of your HAGAN family in South Australia please.

Can you describe this family...John HAGAN and wife........

Children you have identified.......

Births to this couple in SA are........

Is the name consistently HAGAN or a variation eg HOGAN?

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Re: Hagan's in Adelaide, SA
« Reply #2 on: Friday 12 August 16 08:22 BST (UK) »
Two mentions here.....
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1846Brankenmoor.gif

Perhaps some names eg wife or children.

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Re: Hagan's in Adelaide, SA
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 August 16 08:26 BST (UK) »
Concurrent thread gives wife's name and a couple of other details.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=753775.msg6028208

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Re: Hagan's in Adelaide, SA
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 August 16 08:29 BST (UK) »
There are a few mentions in Trove of the Brankenmoor's voyage, but haven't seen any mention of your family , eg http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/73842863?searchTerm=%22brankenmoor%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc

Added: And a list of passengers
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/73841884?searchTerm=%22brankenmoor%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc

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Re: Hagan's in Adelaide, SA
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 August 16 08:59 BST (UK) »
You probably already have this? Birth of son Samuel in Tasmania 1845
https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/all/search/results?qu=john&qu=hagan&st=PA#

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Re: Hagan's in Adelaide, SA
« Reply #6 on: Friday 12 August 16 10:02 BST (UK) »
There are a few mentions in Trove of the Brankenmoor's voyage, but haven't seen any mention of your family , eg http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/73842863?searchTerm=%22brankenmoor%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc

Added: And a list of passengers
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/73841884?searchTerm=%22brankenmoor%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc


Maddy are you reading the links posted by others.

Not the full passenger list and my link gives the same information.

The ShrinkLink facility
http://www.rootschat.com/links/

or

Go to the top left of the TROVE page to Details and copy the article identifier and post that to the thread.


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Re: Hagan's in Adelaide, SA
« Reply #7 on: Friday 12 August 16 10:08 BST (UK) »
A John HAGAN arrived from NSW c1847 but do you have anymore details about your HAGAN family in South Australia.  It appears there were a number of John HAGAN's in SA.

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While I do have evidence they lived in Adelaide (marriages of children etc) is there any evidence of their actual arrival in Adelaide on or around 1846?

Could you please type up that evidence including the names of the children who married.

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Re: Hagan's in Adelaide, SA
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 August 16 12:48 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Thanks for your help. More info --
What is the earliest sighting you have of your HAGAN family in South Australia please. ---

'Case book of medical officer of regiment stationed in Adelaide', dated 1846 (GRG78/12), "Mrs Hagan's child" received medical care:.... Sarah Hagan aged 12 also received care".

May have done other "odd" trips here and there, eg, travelled between Adelaide and Hobart eg 13/1/1848 there was a John Hagan on a ship called "Catherine" from Launceston (Adelaide Observer 15/1/1848).   Could be why he was not witness to daughter Mary Jane's marriage in Adelaide on 18 November 1847 (mother Mary witness) (John’s new son-in-law John Featherstone who was a policeman).
However, John was witness at his other daughter Sarah’s wedding on 26 June 1850 in Adelaide, which states she lived at Glenelg before she was married.

Can you describe this family...John HAGAN and wife........

John Hagan probably born around 1811 in Fermoy, Cork.
Married Mary Adams (~1814, Ireland) in Fermoy, (Armagh) in 1829.

Had at least 7 children, 5 of these born O.S.

Children.......
Mr William Hagan (1837-1911)
Mrs Sarah Hagan (1834-1893)
Mrs Mary Jane Hagan (1830-1877)
Mr John Jnr Hagan (1840-    )
Mrs May Hagan (1843-    )
Mr Samuel Hagan (1845-    )
Mr David Hagan (1847-    )

Births to this couple in SA are........
Mr David Hagan (1847-    )

Births (grandchildren) to this couple in SA are........

Mary Jane and John Featherstone ---

Mary Ann Featherstone    21st June 1849   Adelaide
Sarah Egan Featherstone   15th August 1851   Adelaide
John Featherstone -2 (Died 1 year old)   6th January 1855   Adelaide
Elizabeth Featherstone    See below
Charlotte Featherstone    2nd Sep 1858   Adelaide
Samuel Featherstone   29th May 1860   Adelaide
Mary Jane Featherstone Jnr (known as Jane or Janey)   21st July 1862   Adelaide
Alfred Featherstone   10th May 1868   Adelaide

Sarah Hagan and David Williams had Mary Jane Williams who was born 1853 in SA.

Is the name consistently HAGAN or a variation eg HOGAN? --- Not sure

Thanks,
Rob.