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Re: Bella Campbell b 1876
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 11 August 16 12:50 BST (UK) »
The way I would check, is to look at the section 'citing this record' where there is a reference with numbers and letters. I have found that those who are together in the census have similar references.

There is no James Robertson there. ???

If you compare the births of some of the 'Robertson' children e.g Margaret and Mabel, you will see they are registered as Fyfe in civil indexes.
It all points to the couple being together before 1911 and before the subsequent Fyfe/Tofton children.



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Re: Bella Campbell b 1876
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 11 August 16 14:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Heywood
I have now obtained a copy of the actual 1911 Census return for William Fyfe's household and it has become clearer. But I don't think Mary Isabel should be named a Robertson on the form when she is registered as a Fyfe and Campbell
It will probably not surprise you to know that William Fyfe and Mrs Mabel Robertson nee Tofton had 4 more children after 1911
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Re: Bella Campbell b 1876
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 11 August 16 14:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Heywood
I have now obtained a copy of the actual 1911 Census return for William Fyfe's household and it has become clearer. But I don't think Mary Isabel should be named a Robertson on the form when she is registered as a Fyfe and Campbell
It will probably not surprise you to know that William Fyfe and Mrs Mabel Robertson nee Tofton had 4 more children after 1911
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Re: Bella Campbell b 1876
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 11 August 16 14:31 BST (UK) »
It does seem odd but you perhaps need to look at the handwriting.
We will never know the reasoning behind 'Robertson' being included but comparing the handwriting may help. I think the householder was supposed to complete the form so look at the signature and the family list etc.
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Re: Bella Campbell b 1876
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 11 August 16 14:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Heywood
You are right. From 1911 onwards, the head of the household was required to complete UK Census forms.
Thanks for your help.
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Re: Bella Campbell b 1876
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 11 August 16 20:48 BST (UK) »
Hi
The Census form shows that Mary Isabel Fyfe or Campbell b 1904 is still living with her father William Fyfe in 1911
In an effort to find out what happened to her after 1911, I have located a marriage of a Mary I Fyfe and a Ben Bingham in Keighley on Mar 1927 and a death of a Mary Bingham in Chapel en le Frith, Derbyshire in Dec 1959 aged 54. These look promising because I would expect Mary to take the name Fyfe rather than Robertson or Campbell and because the age at death fits.
Any views?
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Re: Bella Campbell b 1876
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 11 August 16 21:02 BST (UK) »
This death would fit with the marriage you quote:

Mary Isabel Bingham
Birth date 5th November 1904
Death Keighley September quarter 1976 volume 4 pg 0628
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Re: Bella Campbell b 1876
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 11 August 16 21:04 BST (UK) »
You can also find them in the 1939 register - same information.

Possible daughter born 1930 - she can be found using Freebmd. I won't name her as she could still be alive.
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Re: Bella Campbell b 1876
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 11 August 16 23:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Groom
What 1939 register are you referring to and where can I get access to it?
Hi Heywood
FreeBMD does not give the death info you quote . What is your source?
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