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Re: Lookup Richard Filgate South Australia
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 10 August 16 15:00 BST (UK) »
It looks like 3 filgate brothers came in the 1850's as well as their cousin Jonathan Filgate so lt looks like  more searching

Cheran, where are you getting your information from? Whose the 3rd brother and how do you know Jonathan is a cousin?

The Filgate lads seem to have gone to great lengths to keep parents names to themselves.

Jonathan died in 1866 of typhoid fever aged 46. No folks on death Reg.

William died 1896 aged 83. No folks on death Reg.

Jonathan cemetery plaque, click on search on website: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01i6h/

Note that the Filgates are interred with the Gleeson's, then see E. B. Cleeson with William in 1850: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01i6j/

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Re: Lookup Richard Filgate South Australia
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 10 August 16 23:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jamjar

I am hoping I am not misleading.....  When I looked back over the family recollections, I am not sure if 2 families are getting mixed together, I think it may be the 2 sisters marrying into the Richardson family and a cousin also marrying into the Richardson family... 

Thanks for info on Jonathon.


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Re: Lookup Richard Filgate South Australia
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 11 August 16 00:30 BST (UK) »
BISA is an amazing resource for our research but sometimes there are errors in the information.
Here is a transcription of the information about the FILGATE people contained in BISA.



FILGATE Jonathan-  born 1823 and died 6.4.1866 lived at Clare SA
Occupation- Brewer 
Married- 5.12.1854 to Fanny Eliza nee GLEESON whose parents were  Ed.Burton and Harriet born in Calcutta died 19.9.1913
Children-
Amy J. RICHARDSON( 1853-1934)
Ellinor M. RICHARDSON (1856-1942)
Fanny Emma (1856-1857)
Harriet Sarah RICHARDSON( 1857-1950)
Glara Agnes (1861-),
Henry Jonathan (1863-)
Frances  (1863-1863),
Alice Marian (1865-)

FILGATE Richard arrived by 1853
Occ- Customs Officer resided Queenstown, Woodville
Religion- C/E
Married Mary Jane born 1826 died  13.4.1898 at Saddleworth SA
Children-
Amelia Jane (1853-)
Amy RICHARDSON
Ellinor
Mary (1856-)
Fredk Richd (1861-)
 
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Re: Lookup Richard Filgate South Australia
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 11 August 16 00:40 BST (UK) »
To learn more about FILGATE and RICHARDSON associations, including the cordial factory, type this into the search box at Trove-
"filgate richardson"~20
Then  filter by SA and the years that interest you.

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Re: Lookup Richard Filgate South Australia
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 11 August 16 00:47 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sue

I have noted these errors, the same error is on the Frederick George Richardson which records that his wife "Amy" is the daughter of Jonathon.

I am thinking that Amy is short for Amelia Jane who in fact is the daughter of Richard.... as is Eleanor Mary....   the marriage record in the paper has "Amy" as Richard's 2nd daughter

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/39265478?searchTerm=filgate amy&searchLimits=l-category=Family+Notices|||l-decade=187

I think my next step is to possibly find Jonathon on the 1841 Census..... 

I do appreciate all the work everyone is doing to try and solve the puzzle....

Cheran ::) ::)





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Re: Lookup Richard Filgate South Australia
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 11 August 16 00:57 BST (UK) »
 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/41019634
1866
 
Among the deaths during the month .......Mr. Jonathan FILGATE (a gentleman
well' known in the sporting world), brother of Mr William FILGATE of Melbourne

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Re: Lookup Richard Filgate South Australia
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 11 August 16 01:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sue.... 

That is a big help...

I also just found a death notice for an "Amy" Filgate daughter of William Filgate


http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/44963647?searchTerm=%22amy%20filgate%22~SA&searchLimits=


I wonder if she was born in Victoria....

Cheran ???


http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/36317206......W. Filgate into South Australia with a child


Well the banns for William Filgate and Sarah Marie Smith show father's name is William.... darn it

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Re: Lookup Richard Filgate South Australia
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 11 August 16 01:22 BST (UK) »
There are no births in Vic registered with father William FELGATE/FILGATE in the correct time frame.

This obituary gives William's also gives arrival year as 1851to SA
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/87302197

There were many lengthy obituaries for William.
Here is another
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/139724274

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Re: Lookup Richard Filgate South Australia
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 11 August 16 01:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sue.... 

That is a big help...

I also just found a death notice for an "Amy" Filgate daughter of William Filgate


http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/44963647?searchTerm=%22amy%20filgate%22~SA&searchLimits=


 

Amy's middle name was Ackers

1941   642/5203    FILGATE    Amy Ackus.
Relative- undefined    

This was also the middle name of this chap, perhaps a brother in Vic.

FILGATE Wm Ackers
Father Filgate Wm
Mother Unknown UNKNOWN
Age 65
Death Place A Vale
Year1916
Reg.  8359

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