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Re: Whatever happened to little Jackie Baldwin ?
« Reply #36 on: Monday 08 August 16 10:55 BST (UK) »
This seems to be the death of the woman drowned in Yarrawonga
Victoria, 1912, # 16634
Ellen BALDWIN, 35
Died at Yarrawonga, Victoria
Father's name:   HARBUTT Jno Walt
Mother's name:   Ellen

This, then would seem to be her marriage:
1899, Victoria, # 7185
Ellen HARBUTT, Walt BALDWIN

The couple are listed on the Australian Birth Index as having 3 children and more are shown on a public tree. None of them has a name that fits "Jacky", despite the newspaper report and all of the family BMDs appear to take place in the Riverina district.  No mention of Wahroonga at all. Sadly there is a baby's death in 1912 with the next register number to the death of Ellen, so perhaps this is the child referred to in the newspaper article.  One might wonder if this was a case of post-natal depression.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/10527596

Thus it is unlikely that this incident is related to the Jackie lost and found in NSW>

Judith


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Re: Whatever happened to little Jackie Baldwin ?
« Reply #37 on: Monday 08 August 16 11:06 BST (UK) »
May I sidetrack for a moment.

Re WWI AIF records that the NAA has digitised, re NoK,
... John Edward Baldwin was married,  so he would not have been allowed to name his mother as next of kin,  even if he wanted to, and she was still living.    And his mother appears to have been named Alice Maud,  or Maude,  or Maude Elizabeth,  anyway.

My Grandfathers served in the AIF in WWI.   Both enlisted as married men.  Both nominated as their next of kin people other than their respective wives.   One Grandfather nominated his eldest sister and the other Grandfather nominated one of his brothers - the one who was a Reverend.
My Dad served in WWII.  He was a married man before enlisting.   He nominated his Dad as his next of kin.  It is my informed understanding that IF a telegram was needed to be sent, that it would be sent to the person nominated as NoK, and that would be one of the reasons for deciding who to nominate as next of kin. 

In this century, I have been the nominated "nok" for various family members, and for inlaws, when they were being admitted to hospital.  I have also been the 'informant' on NSW and Qld death registrations for family, for inlaws, for neighbours.   "Next of Kin" on the attestment form is simply a contact point, rather than a strict interpretation for Probate matters or for AIF rewards.

Back to considering Jackie BALDWIN, the young boy who survived in the bush around Mt Colah back in 1911 .... 



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Re: Whatever happened to little Jackie Baldwin ?
« Reply #38 on: Monday 08 August 16 11:10 BST (UK) »
Mr and Mrs George Baldwin saying thanks. Second column.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01i5m/

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Re: Whatever happened to little Jackie Baldwin ?
« Reply #39 on: Monday 08 August 16 11:11 BST (UK) »
Well done to Judith too.   :)

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Re: Whatever happened to little Jackie Baldwin ?
« Reply #40 on: Monday 08 August 16 15:34 BST (UK) »
page 20 of the 66 page WW2 military service file for John Edward Baldwin  # 22231

has the small annotations on near the upper left corner   

Stat. dec  Married 31-12-38  and then  Wife died 2-12-42

and near the upper right on the same page

next of kin Elanor May Baldwin   relationship wife

and at the bottom left of the form,  written sideways,  Eleanor May Baldwin m. 17-3-44   and the names and dates of birth of the 2 sons of his first marriage and 1 son of his second marriage.

The death in Queensland of first his wife Miriam Baldwin was registered C4370 in Queensland in December 1942, and her parents recorded as Cornelius Case and Florence Pickles.   One of the previous posters pointed out that he appeared to have married Miriam Case in 1928.

Unless there was more than one George Richard Baldwin in the relevant eras,  and it doesn't seem all that likely that there was,   this Baldwin family was somewhat surprisingly, actually connected with mine after all.

Anyway, I'm done with this investigation.

I want to thank everybody for their help suggestions and advice and things that they turned up.





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Re: Whatever happened to little Jackie Baldwin ?
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 00:23 BST (UK) »
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Re: Whatever happened to little Jackie Baldwin ?
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 00:55 BST (UK) »
I really enjoyed this topic.  What a remarkable story and how lucky that "Jackie" was found.  I'm often intrigued by snippets on TROVE that I notice in looking for items relevant to my research so it's been good to follow this one through.  Interesting to see how much can be unearthed about people in the past.

Thanks for putting it up!

Judith
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Whatever happened to little Jackie Baldwin
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 31 August 21 09:17 BST (UK) »
Greetings,
For anyone still interested in my Uncle Jack I post the following information -

Parents:      George and Maude Baldwin
Residence:   103 Coonanbarra Rd Wahroonga  NSW

         No relatives in Yarrawonga, Victoria.

Children:      Bruce, Jack, Mary, Vincent, Maude.
Bruce and wife Lily are buried at Normanton, Queensland.
Jacks first wife was Miriam died, reason unknown.     They had 2 sons, both now deceased.
Jacks second wife was May, they had I daughter, I believe she is still living.
Jack had Air Force service, by trade an electrician, was sadly killed working on overhead power lines in 1949.
I am trying to add a photo taken shortly after Jack was found but am not having much luck.
I will seek advice.


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Re: Whatever happened to little Jackie Baldwin ?
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 01 September 21 06:41 BST (UK) »
Wow - thanks Actinotus.  It's really interesting to find the facts of a story and to compare them with what has been unearthed by searching.

Just one last thing - I assume your Uncle Jack is actually the Jackie who was lost and then found all those years ago.

Judith
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