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Re: 1841 census.
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 13:42 BST (UK) »
Would be interesting now to find out what occupations were used on all the baptisms if recorded.

I suppose saying your a "Waiter" when you're "toing & froing" between women would account for "long absences"  ::)

Anyone found John in 1861 with any of his kids or anywhere at all?

Hoping he hasn't "popped his clogs"....the story is just getting interesting  ;D

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: 1841 census.
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 13:57 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Ruskie on Tuesday 09 August 16 13:01 BST (UK)
Not that it matters, but might that witness's name be Henry James Brookes?

Ruskie,

Thanks for that.....

It did matter to me as I was hoping to get a look at the other marriage to compare witness names to help clarification  ;D

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 1841 census.
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 14:15 BST (UK) »
Just to add to the mix......

Possible brother of John:

William West
Sarah Foster
3 Jan 1819 - St George, Bloomsbury

A coincidence that John uses "William John" at times  ::)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 1841 census.
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 14:16 BST (UK) »
Quote from: 12tootsi34 on Thursday 04 August 16 13:57 BST (UK)
.... In the 1861 census Sarah (widow) is given as living with Rosina near St Georges circus. As in those days there being no divorce if husband left the wife would call herself a widow, so he may have left rather than died....
Quote from: josey on Tuesday 09 August 16 13:24 BST (UK)
HO107; Piece: 1490; Folio: 28; Page: 48; Aha no John...but 4 more children aged 10 - 2...
2 Burns Place
Sarah West   widow 42 charwoman
Sarah West   21 charwoman
Fanny West   10
Sarah West   4
William West   7
George West   13
Eliza West   2

Perhaps find the baptism of one of these children?

all born Marylebone


There appear to be a couple of deceased John Wests lying around ....  ;D

I did wonder if Eliza, and maybe Sarah in the above census might belong to Sarah aged 21 rather than Sarah aged 42 ....  :-\ (but probably not considering the following, unless she is a daughter in law rather than a daughter and she married a son of Sarah aged 42, whose name was also John?:)

Has this already been mentioned? - Christ Church St Marylebone - Nov 7 1858 - three baptisms on the same day with parents John West and Sarah of 14 Little James St -: Sarah (b 1847), Eliza (b 1850) and Emma (b 1852). I can't work out the father's occupation though it may be "father died"?

aaaahhhh! Too many Johns and Sarahs!  :P

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Re: 1841 census.
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 14:18 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Rosinish on Tuesday 09 August 16 13:57 BST (UK)
Quote from: Ruskie on Tuesday 09 August 16 13:01 BST (UK)
Not that it matters, but might that witness's name be Henry James Brookes?

Ruskie,

Thanks for that.....

It did matter to me as I was hoping to get a look at the other marriage to compare witness names to help clarification  ;D

Annie

I couldn't see the 1827 John West / Sarah French marriage on Ancestry ...  :-\

found it

Added: Have a look at the signatures of John West on both marriage entries and see what you think.  ;)

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Re: 1841 census.
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 14:34 BST (UK) »
Ruskie....

"Has this already been mentioned? - Christ Church St Marylebone - Nov 7 1858 - three baptisms on the same day with parents John West and Sarah of 14 Little James St -: Sarah (b 1847), Eliza (b 1850) and Emma (b 1852). I can't work out the father's occupation though it may be "father died"?"

Think that's the ones mentioned earlier by Millie but ta for the information  :P now we have names  ;D

Yes, agree, wee Eliza could be young Sarah's child.

I found the marriage on Anc but couldn't download it  ???

I need to get ready for going out but would be interesting to know who the witnesses were for William West & Sarah Foster?
 
Hmmm...."deceased John Wests lying around"  ;D or lying around  ???  :P

I wonder what address, which Sarah & who was the informant   ???

Hope I win the lottery to buy all the certs. to find out if they are the same person  ::)


Annie

ADDED....Would have been better if he died in Scotland....questions would be answered in 2 secs  ;D

EDIT.....Not if before 1855  ::)
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 1841 census.
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 14:42 BST (UK) »
Annie, I just added to my previous post (check the signatures)
Witnesses are different on the Sarah French marriage - Samuel Rance? and Elizabeth Nessap/Nepop?  :-\ John claims to be a bachelor.

I will look for the William West marriage ...

Added: witnesses are James West and Ann Atkinson (I think)

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Re: 1841 census.
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 14:45 BST (UK) »
Ruskie,

Will need to wait till I get home......are the signatures different  ???

If he was marrying bigamously he would have to say he was single  ::)  ;D

Annie

ADDED...I couldn't get any of the others to download & enlarging them they were too fuzzy for me to read.

Think I may have to delete stuff from comp....maybe not got enough memory  ???
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 1841 census.
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 14:50 BST (UK) »
It was the gap with the children which made me wonder  ???

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"
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