Alexander ALLAN and family

[Lucy2]

I believe from my searching on "Family Search" (Index # M11628-1) that:
Alexander Allan married Mary Corbett  on 6 Jan 1862 , Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire, Scotland.

That doesn't show me their parents though.

Hi Mustang Sally

In the 1861 Scotland Census,  Lanarkshire > Cambusnethan > Town:  Wishaw > I think the Alexander ALLAN aged 20 - coalminer - born:  Shotts, Lanarkshire, and residing at Campbell Street with Janet Anderson*, widow, 65, housekeeper, is probably your man.
[*  Surname is given as "ANDERSON" ? ]

Also in the same locality (again at Campbell Street)  >

James CORBET - 58 - Ag. Lab. - born Lanarkshire - Cambusnethan
Helen B. CORBET - wife - 49  - born Liff, Forfarshire (Angus)
Mary CORBET - dau - 20 years - b. Lanarkshire
Alexander CORBET - son - 16 years - porter - b. Lanarkshire

[Note:   The marriage record (@ familysearch ) for Alexander ALLAN - 6 January 1862 - at Cambusnethan shows spelling of bride's surname as "CORBET" - with just one "T"  (Mary CORBET). ]

You can view these census returns at the FREE CEN link provided earlier by Spades.
[I'd found them via other resources ... the info though, matches. ]

Look on Freecen Scotland to see if they appear in any census.
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

  ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi again

Can't really help with deciphering the "maiden surname" of Alexander ALLAN's mother as given on his death cert.

    SH .... .. ford     [My guess is that the ending of name might be ..."ford"  ?? ]

In 1851, the ALLAN family are living at > Old Monkland > Lanarkshire > Bailliestown.

ALLAN - Alexander - 58 - occupation:  Flesher* - born Lanark. - Bothwell
ALLAN - Janet - wife - 55 - . b. Old Monkland
ALLAN - Agnes - daughter - 19 - dressmaker - b. Lanark. - Cambusnethan
ALLAN - Alexander - son - scholar - b. Lanarkshire - Shotts

[*  Occupation:   according to www.scotsfamily.com/occupations.htm
a "Flesher" is a butcher. ]

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Mmmm ...

This marriage took place at Old Monkland, Lanarkshire (birthplace of Janet ALLAN in 1851 Scotland census ? )

Alexander ALLAN
Janet ANDERSON
27 June 1822
Old Monkland, Lanarkshire

 

[Rosinish]

This marriage took place at Old Monkland, Lanarkshire (birthplace of Janet ALLAN in 1851 Scotland census ? )

Alexander ALLAN
Janet ANDERSON
27 June 1822
Old Monkland, Lanarkshire

Lucy,

Looks good but.....

What I'm not sure of is.......on the image it has;

Janet Anderson Allan
Formerly "Sha........"?

This would imply either a previous marriage or is "Sha....." her maiden name?

Confused.com     

Annie

ADDED.....I have seen English records where "formerly" means maiden name although Scottish records use "M.S" as Maiden Surname & "Formerly" for a previous marriage surname hence why I'm confused with this 

[Lucy2]

Hi ...

Have just solved the mystery of "Sha...foot" which appears on the NZ d/c for Alexander ALLAN.

... see next post  >

   ~ Lu

[Lucy2]

1841 - Scotland Census

Shotts > Lanarkshire

ALLAN

- Alexr. (male) -45 - bc 1796
- Janet - 45 - bc 1796
- Robt - 15 - bc 1826
- Willm - 13 - bc 1828
- James - 12 - bc 1829
- Agness - 10 - bc 1831
- Gavin - 7 - bc 1834
- Janet - 5 - bc 1836
- Alexr. - 1 - bc 1840

GRAY - Agnes - (female) - 70 - bc 1771
ANDERSON - Alexr. (male) - 7 - bc 1834

    ... all above persons born Lanarkshire, Scotland

House name / Street :    Shawtownfoot
Parish (or Townland) :    Shotts

So, Shawtownfoot seems to be a placename rather than the maiden surname of Janet (mother of Alexander ALLAN (d. 1912 - NZ).   

[The marriage > 27  June 1822 > at Old Monkland, Lanarkshire between Alexander ALLAN and Janet ANDERSON, (posted earlier) now seems a real possibility. ]

   ~  Lu

[Rosinish]

Good work Lucy....what a confusion  but now solved.

Would have made all the difference if the word "of" had been inserted...."formerly of"

Annie

[Mustang Sally]

Thank you  everybody...you're brilliant!

Lucy, I had seen that 1851 census and had wondered if it fit as some of the names fit with birth names that we had reviewed in NZ from 1864-1880.

Spades... I had a look at the reunion photo 1909 and then went looking for supporting news articles in papers past. I'm beginning to wonder if the infant Alexander was one of the 14 deaths (12 were infants) during the voyage of the "Helenslee"? There would be a Superintendent's report of the crossing which might show the names of the deceased but I'm not sure where to find that. Any thoughts?

Lucy,
The "Corbet" family is the one I have identified as being my husband's ancestors. They seem to spell their names with/without the extra "T". "Ballantyne" was Ellen Allan's middle name.

Mustang Sally 

[spades]

Hi MS,

Congratulations on your discoveries and on getting an accurate interpretation of that word - Shawtownfoot.

I had wondered if the infant Alexander might have died on the voyage. The problem is that Surgeon Superintendents reports vary widely in detail and might often give little more that the number of deaths or births, although in the latter case the mother was often named (I assume in lieu of a birth certificate).

I would suggest that you search Archway for any reports, particularly correspondence, relating to this voyage of the Helenslee to see if you can find more information.
https://archway.archives.govt.nz/

Failing that, try Auckland Museum, the New Zealand Society of Genealogists, or local history branches.

Spades