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Re: Two people in the same area????
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 12:02 BST (UK) »
I always look places up on Google maps to see where they are,  St Clement Danes church is still standing.  It is close to Holborn

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Re: Two people in the same area????
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 12:27 BST (UK) »
Is St Clement Danes, Middlesex anywhere near Holborn, Christchurch area?  This is what I find hard.  It is not easy to see where these places were in those days.  I cant seem to make the family search link work at the moment.

Thanks  :)

The familysearch map seemed to break just after I posted the link :-(

St Clement Danes is on the Strand about 5 minutes walk from Fetter Lane
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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Re: Two people in the same area????
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 02 August 16 16:52 BST (UK) »
Is St Clement Danes, Middlesex anywhere near Holborn, Christchurch area?  This is what I find hard.  It is not easy to see where these places were in those days.  I cant seem to make the family search link work at the moment.

Thanks  :)

The familysearch map seemed to break just after I posted the link :-(

St Clement Danes is on the Strand about 5 minutes walk from Fetter Lane

oh  ::) Well thanks for the information though.  It is all coming together nicely now.  You have been a great help. :)

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Re: Two people in the same area????
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 06 August 16 21:37 BST (UK) »
hello again everyone
On this matter...........I have come across a challenge again.
I have found several Christophers born to the family of Charles Watson born 1745 and Elizabeth Melan.  They were married in 1765 in HOlborn and their son Charles, born 1770 is my line.  However, there is a Christopher born in 1776 and then later on  in 1784 and again in 1786.  The places they have lived are Union Court and then Saffron Hill and then two children in Castle Street/yard and these two later Christophers are in Union Court again and then I found a Sarah in 1790 in Fetter Lane.

Fetter Lane is where my Charles had his family so it is a possibility that he could have lived in his fathers house when he married??

I cannot find the Christophers as dying at all????

I then found a Charles Watson born to a Christopher and Elizabeth Watson in 1744, but in Christchurch, Surrey, Southwark.  I thought that maybe this was him as the name Christopher is clearly important (forgot to mention my Charles called his first child George Christopher Watson in 1808), but then I saw that Christchurch Southward is on the other side of the Thames and my reading on the Lightermen suggests that people were constantly crossing the Thames by using these Watermen etc but would that have drawn him to live there and then work as a Lighterman. (cant find his records at all, only my charles, the son!)

So I am thinking that as most of the Lightermen lived in the Middlesex area it seems, the most likely candidate for my Charles and Elizabeth is the one born in Holborn in 1745, but I would be interested in your thoughts please.
Hope this is clear because my head is totally mixed up at the minute with Charles and Christophers!!  :o :o ??? ::) :)


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Re: Two people in the same area????
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 07 August 16 09:01 BST (UK) »
I cannot see if this is already listed - possible construction of this family, christenings St Andrew Holborn   parents Charles WATSON / Martha (WARD)

WATSON George Christopher          6 Aug 1809
WATSON Lavinia Elizabeth             11 Jan 1811
WATSON Emma Antoinette            13 Mar 1814
WATSON Edgar Ward                      5 Nov 1815
WATSON Albert                             13 Apr 1817
WATSON Frederick                          8 Aug 1819
WATSON Horace                            22 Jan 1821
WATSON Eliza Hellen                     24 Nov 1822
WATSON Eliza Jesse                      21 Jan 1827

Census 1841  @ 106 Fitter Lane
WATSON Martha    head  coal dealer
WATSON Edwin     son     29yrs  reader
WATSON Albert     son     24yrs
WATSON Horace    son    20yrs
WATSON Eliza       dau    14yrs      all born in this parish
ANTONIA Elizabeth          22 yrs     coach liner (?)      foreign (born)

Census 1861
WATSON Edwin G   head    48yrs  unmarried   printer (reader)         b. Holborn
WATSON Elizabeth  sister   34yrs                                                   b. Holborn
WATSON Frances L  niece   19yrs   bookfolder                                 b. New Orleans America
                                                                                                   B (british) S (subject)

Who is Frances WATSON b. New Orleans?
In considering the possibility that Martha WATSON might have an earlier (than WATSON) family, it might be useful to research the origins of this Frances WATSON to identify her parents.

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Re: Two people in the same area????
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 07 August 16 09:35 BST (UK) »
A Lavinia Frances Watson (full age) married Henry Wilson 11 April 1868 at St Mary Newington, her father was George Christopher Watson - lighterman
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Two people in the same area????
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 07 August 16 17:24 BST (UK) »
A Lavinia Frances Watson (full age) married Henry Wilson 11 April 1868 at St Mary Newington, her father was George Christopher Watson - lighterman
thanks for looking into this, but I have just pulled up the St Mary Newington register for 1868 and there is no entry for Lavinia Frances Watson at all.  I have found George Christpher Watson's apprentice records with the Waterman and Lightermen records and he was bound to Charles Watson on 4 March 1824, but then reassigned to his mother Martha Watson on the same day???? I know Charles died in 1829.  could he have been too ill to do the work?

Cant find George Christopher in any census either!  ???

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Re: Two people in the same area????
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 07 August 16 17:35 BST (UK) »
Hello again

I have just followed another link to the St Mary Newington marriage from a Family Tree on Ancestry and found that marriage.  Still cant find what George was up to though.

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Re: Two people in the same area????
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 24 March 20 00:42 GMT (UK) »
Martha Ward Watson of 106 Fetter Lane was my gggg grandmother
Crozier, Craike, Rochfort, Sinderberry, Watson, Holmes, Daly, Walsh, Sheedy, Souz