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Re: What happened to Mary Gardiner(nee SMITH)
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 30 July 16 04:56 BST (UK) »
I was wondering if the children were for the right couple, as I had noticed Christchurch on the E/R's and also noticed that the child mentioned above Alfred Henry Gardiner, was buried in Purewa 28 July 1896 at 10 months.


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Re: What happened to Mary Gardiner(nee SMITH)
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 30 July 16 05:19 BST (UK) »

[The names of the children of William GARDINER - d. 1910 -  are given in his Will (dated 1909) :
You can find this at the familysearch.org website.     You'll know to search under the name of HUMPHRIES for this  ;) ]

Link to NZ Probate files >

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1865481


Hi KHP

I hadn't looked as far as finding the death of the child "Alfred Henry" ... but thanks for that (it helps to put some other info in perspective.)

Just wondering if amongst school records, there might be something for 2 ROWSELL children - namely "Henry Cecil - bc 1885 and Violet Annie - bc 1883".  They were the surviving children of Emma Harriett ROWSELL (who was 3rd wife of this William) and her husband, Henry.    Looking to find where they were living c. 1890- 1896.    ???

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Re: What happened to Mary Gardiner(nee SMITH)
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 30 July 16 05:36 BST (UK) »
Hope this helps. :)

Violet Annie Rowsell was admitted to the Burwood School on 1 April 1889, parent being named as H Rowsell.  At that time they were living in New Brighton.  She left that school on the 21 Dec 1891 as she was going to Richmond.   Birth year was stated as 17 Jun 1883.

Henry Cecil Rowsell was admitted to West Christchurch School on the 28 Jan 1895, parent being named as Mrs Gardiner, they were living at 64 Durham St, he left on the 14 Feb 1898 for Fendalton School.   Birth year was stated as 30 Aug 1885.

There is a Probate for Henry held at Christchurch.  According to another School Record his daughter was named Amelia Hariett.  Only one "R''in Harriett.

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Re: What happened to Mary Gardiner(nee SMITH)
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 30 July 16 05:42 BST (UK) »
Should probably mention at this point, that the William GARDINER spoken of in this thread, was also known as "William HUMPHRIES", indeed that is the surname under which his 1910 death certificate was issued. [Not sure why lnr hasn't mentioned this ??  ;) ]

The children named in the Will of William HUMPHRIES, (dated 27 January 1909) are as follows :
[There seems to be - 4 x sons and 4 x daughters ???  ]

- John Owen / Lucy Leah / Emily Edith / Rose / Mary / Sidney / Albert / Charles :  {That is my intrepretation of the names}

[Note:   Wife named in will is Emma Harriett HUMPHRIES. ]

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Re: What happened to Mary Gardiner(nee SMITH)
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 30 July 16 05:50 BST (UK) »
Wonderful KHP ... sure does help ... thanks.   :)


Henry Cecil Rowsell was admitted to West Christchurch School on the 28 Jan 1895, parent being named as Mrs Gardiner, they were living at 64 Durham St, he left on the 14 Feb 1898 for Fendalton School.   Birth year was stated as 30 Aug 1885.

Cheers KHP

Emma Harriet ROWSELL ... was using the surname GARDINER in early 1895. 

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Re: What happened to Mary Gardiner(nee SMITH)
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 30 July 16 05:53 BST (UK) »
Hi spades

An earlier thread ... might answer some questions ???

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=109798

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Re: What happened to Mary Gardiner(nee SMITH)
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 30 July 16 06:20 BST (UK) »
on his marriage cert he said he was a widower which he was from his first wife but then it was stated he hadnt seen his wife meaning Mary for 14 years.so if my calculations are right they were only together four years.thanks lnr

Hi lnr

Above info is for the 1906 marriage to Emma Harriet ROWSELL, is that correct ?

So, the wife "Mary - nee SMITH" is "out of the picture" so to speak, from circa 1892 ?
[Incidentally the marriage is indexed as "GARDENER - SMITH -- 1887" . ]

Electoral :

1896 - Canterbury - Christchurch roll

GARDINER - William - fruiterer
GARDINER - Emma - housewife
              ..... both residing at 64 Durham Street, (ChCh)


1900 - Christchurch roll

GARDINER - William - fruiterer
GARDINER - Emma Harriett - domestic duties  -  both at 64 Durham Street


So both the above listings were before the actual marriage (in 1906).

*  Could someone with CD, please check 1893 E/roll for Emma Harriett ROWSELL or GARDINER (I couldn't find her listed ??)

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Re: What happened to Mary Gardiner(nee SMITH)
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 30 July 16 06:26 BST (UK) »
Here you go:

Electoral Roll (1893) - Women

Name : ROWSELL Emma Harriett
Electorate : City of Christchurch
Number : 13869
Residence : Durham Street Sydenham
Occupation : Domestic duties
Year : 1893

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Re: What happened to Mary Gardiner(nee SMITH)
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 30 July 16 06:42 BST (UK) »
Many thanks, KHP.   :)

Possibly helpful to know she was still using her former married name.

Mmm... couldn't see a death for Henry ROWSELL (prob. hidden under a spelling error ??) the husband of Emma Harriett.  ???   [Though he may of course have "run off" ???]

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