Bradshaw & Jones tracing

[Patricia Short]

Rosie, I don't want to give out my mum 4th cousin as he living. So I don't want to give out his name. But I'll copy and paste the msg to you and those trying to help me.

Annette, that is why I am researching more and more into it. I'll get that record for you that I saw on Mary. Sure I seen it on a baptism, check for you now.

[rosie99]

Thank you 

The Walesby baptism does name parents as John Bradshaw and Rebecca Turner.  There is also a marriage the following month in Walesby for a Rebecca Turner (widow) to a John Swaby.

[Patricia Short]

That doesn't help the rest of us that are trying to help you though unless you PM all of us.

Name   Mary Turner
Gender   Female
Baptism Date   10 Sep 1815
Baptism Place   Walesby,Lincoln,England
FHL Film Number   508068, 508082
Household Members   
Name   Age
Rebecca Turner   
John Bradshaw   
Mary Turner

But on another baptism record with all right information but different surname;
Name   Mary Bradshaw
Gender   Female
Baptism Date   10 Sep 1815
Baptism Place   Walesby, Lincoln, England
FHL Film Number   1450432 IT 7
Household Members   
Name   Age
Mary Bradshaw   
Rebecca Turner   
John Bradshaw   

This is my complete confusion of where there 2 baptism records for exact same parents, date, place, etc. But the surname been changed 

[Patricia Short]

"The Walesby baptism does name parents as John Bradshaw and Rebecca Turner.  There is also a marriage the following month in Walesby for a Rebecca Turner (widow) to a John Swaby."

I was just digging into Rebecca to see if she married before, do you think the record you found is right one?

[rosie99]

They have been taken from different sources

This film is parish registers FHL Film Number   1450432 IT 7

These are Bishops Transcripts FHL Film Number   508068, 508082

It would appear that she was probably illegitimate 

[rosie99]

"The Walesby baptism does name parents as John Bradshaw and Rebecca Turner.  There is also a marriage the following month in Walesby for a Rebecca Turner (widow) to a John Swaby."

I was just digging into Rebecca to see if she married before, do you think the record you found is right one?

There is no way of telling.  The original marriage image is on linkstothepast but does not give any clues.

[Patricia Short]

   illegitimate child? oh boy! makes it more complicated. Will find the shekeltons in the closet soon, just got to keep digging and hopefully all this searching will come up with correct details on John and Mary.

[AMBLY]

Hi

Thanks for your PM.   So I take it, it's the daughter of John & Mary, Susannah,  who is the one who is absolutely certain. Her headstone indicates she was born something like 18 Jan 1852 (I think). The 1860 and 1870 Census has her born in PA.

HEADSTONE on Finda Grave:

1 Side:
Susannah
Daughter of J. & M. L. JONES
Died Dec 6 1877
Aged  25YS , 10 MO, 18 DS

2 Side:
John L  JONES
Died Jan 22 1894
Age 84 years

3 Side:
Mary
Wife of John L JONES
Died November 6 1875
Age 61 years

Separate Stone leaning against the  above monument:
Mary Ann
Daughter of John L. and Mary Jones
Died Dec. 7 1855 age 7 Y 6M

Found this, on an old 2000 forum :
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.jones/4606/mb.ashx
John L & Mary JONES   came to PA in 1843 from Aberystwyth Wales and moved to Sharon PA in 1850 forming Sharon steel with John aston and joseph barber...

Cheers
AMBLY

[Patricia Short]

  That is the findgrave photo's I saw but I could not make no heads or tails on most of the photo's. The front side of Susanna and her parents name underneath is what I could make out, but thee other's was hard for me to work out what they said. Staring at the photo's long time, I gave up.

Thanks for the link, I just noticed the person who posted it... my mum 4th cousin. If he knew that John was and immigrated from Wales, I don't understand why he think John L was born in England. Cos other public tree's say he was born in England, yet he is from Wales as the census pa says too. Finally we are getting there... jigsaw is piecing together, almost.