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help please on where I can find my Grandfathers ww1 Record
« on: Friday 22 July 16 05:01 BST (UK) »
Hi
I am wondering would anyone know where or how I could look for my Grandfathers ww1 war record..I have looked in
National archives england and I have alot of info from ancestry.com.what I know so far is
Arthur Nelson Robbins
Born 18th march 1900 and died june 1974
he enlisted in the Royal Expeditionary Force at age 14 years, he was sent to Russian front.he completed hisservice in 1921 in ireland..found some medal records with rank cpl 4334618.
would love to be able to findbout more about his war life and maybe where in russia where he was sent..I seem to have difficulty search as I am still a beginner..like looking in trove, must be doing something wrong as when look up names of husbands relatives it takes me days or weeks yet you ppl on here found something on here within half hour  was so amazing..
please what am I doing wrong

thank you so much in advance just for reading this
jacqueline

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Re: help please on where I can find my Grandfathers ww1 Record
« Reply #2 on: Friday 22 July 16 05:31 BST (UK) »
Thank you for finding that link, looks like his records would have been burnt, as I cant fins anything..
I was shocked to learn his age 14 years old and seeing and experiencing the things he did is quite upsetting...
thanks again
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Re: help please on where I can find my Grandfathers ww1 Record
« Reply #3 on: Friday 22 July 16 07:18 BST (UK) »
Might I suggest that you ask the Moderator to move this topic to the WW1 board, where there are people with a lot of knowledge.

The service number (4334618) you quote appears to belong to Cpl A N Robbins of the E Yorkshire Regiment, and he was not awarded any medals in WW1, which is a little strange if he went to Russia.  :-\
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Re: help please on where I can find my Grandfathers ww1 Record
« Reply #4 on: Friday 22 July 16 07:24 BST (UK) »
he enlisted in the Royal Expeditionary Force at age 14 years, he was sent to Russian front.he completed his service in 1921 in ireland..

For personnel who were serving after 1920, their records will still be with the MOD.

See here for details of how to apply:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records

There is a fee of £30.
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Re: help please on where I can find my Grandfathers ww1 Record
« Reply #5 on: Friday 22 July 16 09:56 BST (UK) »
How old do you think he was  when he was sent overseas?
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Re: help please on where I can find my Grandfathers ww1 Record
« Reply #6 on: Friday 22 July 16 10:16 BST (UK) »
According to family stuff kept clippings and such he was 14 and the c ouple of years later his brother ran off without concent and enlisted as we have a letter with her actually begging for the war department to send him home as he was also under age and in the letter it says her older son the 14 year was in russia..

I found a photo of him standing outside some office on steps when he wS afew years older with the Princess Royal and some Lady Syble Kenyon Slayney and he was wearing 4 Medals  he was wearing his medals again when hecwas handing in some Nomination papers for something dont know yet as I dont know how to research newspapers in Bradford yet
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Re: help please on where I can find my Grandfathers ww1 Record
« Reply #7 on: Friday 22 July 16 10:27 BST (UK) »
The medal card for 4334618 Cpl AN Robbins East Yorks has the written note "Oi/c Records York fwds (forwards) list of indivs (individuals) who claim to have been awarded Russian decs (decorations) and requests instructions thereon"  It is dated 25 11 1920.

There is also a card for a  Lieut AN Robbins of the Slavo British Legion which took part in the Russian intervention.   I haven't been able (yet) to find East Yorks although the 6th Bn Yorks (Green Howards) were there and in any event, he wouldn't necessarily have to have deployed with his own battalion.   The deployment was in 1918/19 so he had a bit of time to grow in experience!

Further - his number is one of the new numbers allocated to the East Yorks in 1920.   I am also intrigued by the medal roll entry for 30266 Pte AN Robbins of  1st Bn East Yorks, formerly 10th Bn 57162 who is noted as still serving when the roll was issued on 8 May 1920.

However, these are simply bits of a jigsaw.  You'll get the picture on the box (so to speak) if you follow KGarrad's advice as all this seems to confirm, along with your family info about serving till 1921, that his detailed docs will still be with MOD.

And then let us know please!

PS just seen your post.  If the photo is good enough, post it, the medals may be identifiable.

maxD 
I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Re: help please on where I can find my Grandfathers ww1 Record
« Reply #8 on: Friday 22 July 16 10:41 BST (UK) »
Hello again
I found this
arthur nelson robbins
corps w york
e york r
private regn no 57162
                             30266
victory medal 0/1//102  BO page 954
prince of wales own regiment
east yorkshire regiment

absolutley no idea what this means....I wish I asked more questions when I was young

thank you all for helping
jacqueline