Author Topic: Moses Treadaway burial  (Read 642 times)

Offline BarbaraJay

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 10
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Moses Treadaway burial
« on: Thursday 21 July 16 01:11 BST (UK) »
Hi, I've been searching for years for the death/burial of Moses Treadaway, baptised 1764, Fulmer, Bucks. I have his wife's burial in 1832 at Hillingdon St John the Baptist, but cannot find Moses. There is a burial for Moses Treadway 9 May 18837 at St Giles in the Fields, Camden, age 90, but not sure this could be him. Trouble is that the name TREADAWAY is often mis-spelled/transcribed. I'd appreciate any help please… Barbara

Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,276
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Moses Treadaway burial
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 July 16 01:49 BST (UK) »
The finding of Lydia, his wife:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=487063.0

Is it due to the discrepancy in his estimated birth date that makes you wonder if the 1837 Camden burial is your Moses? Keep in mind that he may have been baptised when older.
(Btw: his age is given as 80 not 90 on your other post.)

I agree though that it is worth investigating if there are burials for other Moses Tread*ways.


Offline BarbaraJay

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 10
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Moses Treadaway burial
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 July 16 05:13 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Ruskie. I had thought that too, as I don't have a definite birth, only the baptism, 1764 Fulmer. Sorry, yes 80. Although he was born Fulmer, moved to Iver, and wife died in Hillingdon, am still unsure whether he would have been in Camden, although apparently he was in the workhouse, I have searched all other variants of Treadaway, and the only ones were others members in the family that I already know of. Can't think of any other way to prove it's him… Thanks for your thoughts anyway :] Barbara

Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,276
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Moses Treadaway burial
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 July 16 06:38 BST (UK) »
It is a difficult one.

Have you traced his family? Maybe Moses moved to Camden to live with one of his children after Lydia's death?

If he was ill he might have been admitted to the workhouse, as they were an early version of a hospital. It might be worth seeing if Camden was the nearest workhouse to Hillingdon at that time. I know there was one in Hanwell, but unsure when it was built. There were probably others too.

As I'm sure you know, not all records survive or are online, and though it is tempting to believe this burial is for your Moses, especially considering the unusual name and the fact that his age is fairly close, there many have been other Moses's  .....  :-\

I'm not sure what to suggest.


Offline BarbaraJay

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 10
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Moses Treadaway burial
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 July 16 08:24 BST (UK) »
Thank you…. yes have traced his family, and nobody was in Camden at all. It's about 16 miles atcf to Camden from Hillingdon, so I suppose he could have been there for some reason!.. who knows… as you say, maybe the records is not there for me to find. Thanks for your comments, anyway. Barbara

Offline Bookbox

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,294
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Moses Treadaway burial
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 July 16 10:34 BST (UK) »
Moses was buried from the workhouse at St Giles in the Fields. This parish is between Marylebone/Westminster and Holborn. Although part of it falls into the present-day London Borough of Camden, it would not have been considered 'Camden' in 1837.

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/StGiles/

You might want to check the parish poor-law records for St Giles in the Fields. A workhouse admission or a settlement examination in the years leading up to Moses' death might help identify him. The records are held at London Metropolitan Archives (LMA), and some are on Ancestry.

(1) Parts of two Admission/Discharge registers for St Giles in the Fields workhouse 1818-1843 are indexed in Ancestry's database London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930. A quick search for Moses produced no result, but these records are incomplete online.

(2) Settlement examinations for the parish of St Giles in the Fields 1830-1868 are online here ...
London, England, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1430-1930 > Camden > Holborn > Settlement Papers > Settlement examinations 1830-1868

The examinations are recorded in rough chronological order, and there is no name-index online. So you would have to read through each register from 1830 up to his date of death in 1837 (about 12 registers). Again, there are gaps in the collection, not just on Ancestry but in the original collection as held at LMA.

There is an index to these settlement examinations at LMA (under HOBG/502/092). But it's currently classified as Unfit, and I suspect there is no film.

Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,276
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Moses Treadaway burial
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 July 16 12:44 BST (UK) »
Very useful information Bookbox. :)

Offline BarbaraJay

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 10
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Moses Treadaway burial
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 July 16 13:33 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much, Bookbox, that is very informative. I will follow through where I can [I am in Australia] It's definitely given me more to look at. Thanks. Barbara