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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 16 July 16 20:05 BST (UK) »
Hmmm.

1891, Albert Hallibone in Dr Barnardos Youths Labour House. Parish of Limehouse. 'Lad in home'.
1901, in Great Yarmouth, married to Elsie........married in 1895. Great Yarmouth, to Elsie Sutton.
1911, in Grimsby with 5 children.

I'll look at the tree/s, and see if there is anything to glean.

Dr Barnados is interesting.....I wonder if they moved the lost Ives's on.??

Why did William Hallibone take on the surname Ives......we'll never know I suppose.

Thanks Maddie. ;)


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Ives, Stevens, Allen, Smith, King, Wooster, Elwood from Monks and Princes Risborough, Aylesbury, Wendover, Great Missenden, Bledlow, Horsenden, Saunderton, West Wycombe, High Wycombe, Lacey Green, Longwick, Illmer,  Hughenden, Prestwood, The Kimbles, Haslemere, Bradenham, Aston Clinton and more......!!  Plus a whole host of Oxfordshire areas.
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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 16 July 16 20:46 BST (UK) »
Barnardo's hold records and there may be a chance that the Ives children are among these.

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_do/our_history/working_with_former_barnardos_children-2013/family_history_service/family_history_service_our_service.htm

They offer a research service but it seems a bit pricey if you ask me  ;D but it might be worth having a look...

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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 16 July 16 20:48 BST (UK) »
I have just sent an enquiry to Dr.Barnado's, to see if it's possible they have a mention of them in their Archives and photo repository.
This also applies to Albert Reynolds Hallibone.

Steve. :)
Ives, Stevens, Allen, Smith, King, Wooster, Elwood from Monks and Princes Risborough, Aylesbury, Wendover, Great Missenden, Bledlow, Horsenden, Saunderton, West Wycombe, High Wycombe, Lacey Green, Longwick, Illmer,  Hughenden, Prestwood, The Kimbles, Haslemere, Bradenham, Aston Clinton and more......!!  Plus a whole host of Oxfordshire areas.
Graham, Pimlott, Burgess from Cheshire and Lancashire area.
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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 16 July 16 20:49 BST (UK) »
Quote from: BettyHeath on Saturday 16 July 16 20:46 BST (UK)
Barnardo's hold records and there may be a chance that the Ives children are among these.

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_do/our_history/working_with_former_barnardos_children-2013/family_history_service/family_history_service_our_service.htm

They offer a research service but it seems a bit pricey if you ask me  ;D but it might be worth having a look...

SNAP. ;D
Ives, Stevens, Allen, Smith, King, Wooster, Elwood from Monks and Princes Risborough, Aylesbury, Wendover, Great Missenden, Bledlow, Horsenden, Saunderton, West Wycombe, High Wycombe, Lacey Green, Longwick, Illmer,  Hughenden, Prestwood, The Kimbles, Haslemere, Bradenham, Aston Clinton and more......!!  Plus a whole host of Oxfordshire areas.
Graham, Pimlott, Burgess from Cheshire and Lancashire area.
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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 16 July 16 20:57 BST (UK) »
Good luck, Steve. I hope you find out what happened to them  :)

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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 16 July 16 21:11 BST (UK) »
The initial enquiry is £15 per person I think.  Thereafter the price rockets up.  If there is one Ives child there, it is possible there are more.

I can stand the £15, but not for all of them. A total cost would be roughly, £85 each child if I read it right. :o

So that would be a maximum of around £450. :o :o :o

I'll see what happens when they reply.

Steve. :)
Ives, Stevens, Allen, Smith, King, Wooster, Elwood from Monks and Princes Risborough, Aylesbury, Wendover, Great Missenden, Bledlow, Horsenden, Saunderton, West Wycombe, High Wycombe, Lacey Green, Longwick, Illmer,  Hughenden, Prestwood, The Kimbles, Haslemere, Bradenham, Aston Clinton and more......!!  Plus a whole host of Oxfordshire areas.
Graham, Pimlott, Burgess from Cheshire and Lancashire area.
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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 16 July 16 21:25 BST (UK) »
Maybe of interest

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=230229.0

I think if children with Barnardos or workhouse they would be enumerated in census but maybe only by initials, possible surname maybe pob marked unknown in some cases.

Doesn't help, but just a thought.

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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 16 July 16 23:53 BST (UK) »
Might it be worth contacting the Centre for Bucks Studies in Aylesbury Steve as they appear to have the Guardians Minute Books for Eton Workhouse which might give you some idea of where Eleanor & the children went when they left. They certainly are a puzzle. :-\

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Re: Lost Ives Children.
« Reply #17 on: Monday 18 July 16 00:41 BST (UK) »
Thanks Maddie, but already done that.  Usually my first port of call for such things. ;D

I think I've found one of the sons........Thomas William Ives seems to have married a Sarah Livesey, in St Peters, Liverpool, in 1894.   Fathers name is given as Henry George Ives.  Maybe his mistake, or just his brothers name......or it's not him.
It's a transcript of the marriage, and on looking for the original marriage entry, it seems there is a gap from 1844 to 1907 for the St Peters Church registers. ???

But a lot of the census details add up quite nicely, and his absence on some of them are possibly answered by him being a Merchant Seaman. ;)

I've entered all that in my tree, and if it does not pan out, I'll delete it.

Thanks again.

Steve. :)
Ives, Stevens, Allen, Smith, King, Wooster, Elwood from Monks and Princes Risborough, Aylesbury, Wendover, Great Missenden, Bledlow, Horsenden, Saunderton, West Wycombe, High Wycombe, Lacey Green, Longwick, Illmer,  Hughenden, Prestwood, The Kimbles, Haslemere, Bradenham, Aston Clinton and more......!!  Plus a whole host of Oxfordshire areas.
Graham, Pimlott, Burgess from Cheshire and Lancashire area.
Acknowledgemets to http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/  and  http://www.ofhs.org.uk/
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