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Thompson Keys, Clogher, Tyrone
« on: Saturday 16 July 16 00:15 BST (UK) »
Searching Irish records is new to me and I cannot understand why I am finding it so difficult compared with England/Scotland.  I would be grateful for any suggestions.

Here is ALL of the information I have.

My great aunt is Mary Keys, born 22 October 1908, in Findermore, Clogher, Tyrone.  I have a copy of her birth certificate.

Her father is Thompson Keys, carpenter, dwelling place Findermore
Her mother is Martha Jane Keys, formerly Keys.

I looked for marriage for Thompson Keys - nothing for wife with maiden name Keys, but there is a record  - Thompson Keys married Martha Jane Robinson, 29 Jan 1902. 

There is a 1911 census record for
Thompson Keys, Head of family, age 50, birth 1861
Martha Keys, wife, age 36, birth 1875
William Keys, son, 6, 1905
Thompson Keys, son, 4, 1907
Mary Keys, daughter, 2, 1909 - Great Aunt Mary
Thomas, McGirr, boarder

The Aunt Mary story in the family is limited - she is reported to have left home aged 16 years, and taken a boat to England where she found work in the household of a wealthy family named Millington.   Her reason for leaving so young was that she had many siblings, but so far I have found only Mary and two brothers.

Mary Keys and George Woods (born 28 Sep 1910) were married in 1938 in Uppingham, Rutland and the rest of their lives were spent Rutland or Leicestershire.
They had one daughter born 1945, died 2014.
George died 10 Dec 1967, Mary died 7 Feb 1987.

I am very familiar with the George Woods side of the family but Mary Keys and her Irish origins are my ‘brick wall’. 

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Re: Thompson Keys, Clogher, Tyrone
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 July 16 01:12 BST (UK) »

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Re: Thompson Keys, Clogher, Tyrone
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 July 16 01:25 BST (UK) »
There is only one birth to a Keys and Robinson in Clogher a Lena in Aug 1911
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/692e1c0335323
Hopefully she is the child of that Thompson Keys Matha Robinson marriage
Do you know if there was a child in the family named Lena, if so the mother's name is incorrect on the other births.
Otherwise could they have married in England?


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Re: Thompson Keys, Clogher, Tyrone
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 July 16 01:35 BST (UK) »
There are only two Martha Keys married showing in 1911 and the other is married to a David.
And she is Mulberry http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/6de5026757019

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Re: Thompson Keys, Clogher, Tyrone
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 July 16 01:47 BST (UK) »
Yes I saw Lena but I have no idea if she belongs to this family.  I did a search for children with surname Keys born between 1900-1920 (or thereabouts) and it found 12.  I have tried to trace some of them but even with an unusual surname, it is difficult to be sure where exactly they belong.

I really don't think they married in England.  When Mary came over in approx 1924 the story goes that she ran off and got on a boat etc so I don't think her parents were in England.

I have wondered if the mother, when the babies were registered, perhaps misunderstood and gave her married name (twice) so that both Marthas are the same person, the one who gave her name as Keys and the one who married Thompson in 1902.  Or she and Thompson could be cousins??  Or if the 1902 marriage is nothing to do with my family, perhaps they were not married.  Mary apparently was very secretive about her past.

I have tried to find Thompson's birth in the hope that it would clear up whether there is one Thompson of that age or maybe two.  Surely Thompson Keys must be an unusual name???

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Re: Thompson Keys, Clogher, Tyrone
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 July 16 02:30 BST (UK) »
I was thinking along the same lines as you.
The marriage cert would have his occupation on it, if you want to go that far with the search.
I always get confused about what you can view on line (for a price) on the Northern Ireland sites but I'm sure someone will explain. I must make a note of it this time.
I think this is the correct site. https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

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Re: Thompson Keys, Clogher, Tyrone
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 July 16 02:39 BST (UK) »
Try Keyes etc
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Re: Thompson Keys, Clogher, Tyrone
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 July 16 02:47 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your help Sinann.  I appreciate it.  I will look at that tomorrow, or later today.  I am past my usefulness for tonight!!

Thank you also hallmark.  I didn't think of that.  I changed the spelling of Thompson but not of Keys.  Another job for tomorrow.