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Re: One death, two burials, Cardiff, 1856
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 16 July 16 11:04 BST (UK) »
one thing that came to me about a death in Canton was that it could have been in the workhouse in Cowbridge Road, but this site mentions an infirmary being added in 1872, too early for Johanna's death. Unless that was a new purpose built one & there was one within the main building earlier.

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Cardiff/
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: One death, two burials, Cardiff, 1856
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 16 July 16 12:12 BST (UK) »
Hadn't though about the workhouse, thanks osprey (though i thought it was included on the death certificate - i have several of those, including James, her possible husband).

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Re: One death, two burials, Cardiff, 1856
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 23 July 16 21:04 BST (UK) »
It looks quite likely that this is one family group, the three baptisms at St David's in the early 1850s, the 1851 census in David Street, and the deaths and burials of Johanna McCarthy (nee Sullivan) in 1855, and 2 of her children, John aged 10 days in Feb 1850 (which then agrees with the 1851 census), and Mary in 1860.

But, i still can't link them to the James McCarthy who married Ellen Barry in Cardiff in 1880 and were then living with James' father in 1881, as i can't find the Jameses in 1861 or 1871. There is one good looking family, with a new wife / mother called Margaret. But james and margaret are on the 1881 so this cannot be the ones i'm looking for.

And i can find no record of a Lewis Sullivan (who registered Johanna's death in 1856) in Cardiff at all.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: One death, two burials, Cardiff, 1856
« Reply #12 on: Friday 11 November 16 09:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Smokey.. sorry have not read everything on your post but I remembered the migration of Irish!  They came to Cardiff in the mid 1850's.  Here is a link, hope it helps?  I have read up on it and found they did not fit in easily at the time because of the (same old) taking jobs from the Welsh!  There were quite a number of assaults and a few murders on both sides.  If I can I will put that link on sometime!

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=292018.0

Nannie Mcphee
Brown/Smith/Hunt/Edwards/David/Cawsey/Stokes/Jenkins/Jackson/
GLAMORGANSHIRE/MONMOUTHSHIRE
Brown/Smith/Harding/Pyatt/
SOMERSET
Bodman/Ledbury/Hancock/Morris/
WILTSHIRE
Elsmore/Ellsmore/Long/Heath/Morgan
FOREST OF DEAN


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Re: One death, two burials, Cardiff, 1856
« Reply #13 on: Friday 11 November 16 10:11 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Nannie McPhee, an interesting topic, and an amazing series of links. I will have a good look at those tonight.

Having great trouble finding my Irish ancestors, even with all the new records now available online.

Thanks again.