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lighterman and waterman
« on: Monday 11 July 16 16:24 BST (UK) »
My GGGgrandfather William Rugg drowned in the River Thames in 1869 I am trying to find more information

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Re: lighterman and waterman
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 July 16 19:13 BST (UK) »
found several watermen records what we really need is a year and place of birth fathers name may help as well please
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Re: lighterman and waterman
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 July 16 19:33 BST (UK) »
he was born in London 1800' his father was John Rugg born 1769 do not know where
it is the same William it looks we did not look at the info properly.
I have seen most of the census info,the main thing i am trying to find  out is how come he drowned in the River Thames was it an accident or something else
thanks for all your imput
Tony

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Re: lighterman and waterman
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 July 16 21:22 BST (UK) »
hi
I can only see 2 possibles for William rugg,
master to whom bound john averell rugg bound 8 june 1815 till june 1822 and
master to whom bound Elizabeth sergeant  bound 8 jun 1815 till june 1824
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Re: lighterman and waterman
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 July 16 08:43 BST (UK) »
William Rugg
England and Wales Census, 1861
Name   William Rugg
County   London, Middlesex
Event Type   Census
Event Date   1861
Event Place   Limehouse, London, Middlesex, England
Ecclesiastical Parish   St Ann
Registration District   Stepney
Residence Note   New Street South Side
Gender   Male
Age   61
Marital Status   Married
Occupation   Waterman And Lighterman
Relationship to Head of Household   Head
Birth Year (Estimated)   1800
Birthplace   Spittalfield, Middlesex
Page Number   41
Registration Number   RG09
Piece/Folio   288 / 120
Affiliate Record Type   Household
William Rugg   Head   M   61   Spittalfield, Middlesex
Martha Rugg   Wife   F   61   Wapping, Middlesex
Fredrick M Rugg   Son   M   21   Limehouse, Middlesex
Jane Aveline Rugg   Daughter   F   19   Limehouse, Middlesex

are you sure your William Rugg was born in Limehouse ??
this one was born in Spittalfield and is a Waterman and Lighterman - looks a likely for your William Rugg
his children are born in Limehouse and they are living in New Street South Side,Spittalfield, in 1861 census
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Re: lighterman and waterman
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 July 16 09:37 BST (UK) »
in 1851 cen William says he was born in limehouse , I,ve found before that place of birth can vary my own gt grandfather said he was born in different districts of London on census returns , he was a lighterman as well as his brother james .
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Re: lighterman and waterman
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 July 16 10:05 BST (UK) »
just checked my watermen cds and found two more ruggs
james fox rugg bound 11 apr 1844 - 13 mar 1856 master William rugg limehouse
john William rug bound 8 jan 1835 - 9 jun 1842 master William rugg wapping
there are other rugg watermen lightermen records online over several years back as far as 1700,s at least .
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Re: lighterman and waterman
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 July 16 07:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Tony, Hi Trevor,

Just a thought: 
In the RootsChat Database for Speicial Interest Groups (DBSIG) we have a section for
Watermen (Canal and Riverboat people).
http://surname.rootschat.com/lexicon/dbsig/index.php

No RUGGs there at the moment, but why not add your entries for future searchers :)

regards,
Bob
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Re: lighterman and waterman
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 July 16 08:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Bob
I looked in the special interest so as to register the name Rugg but it states that you have to have
made two post.
Also is there any section for old French water Gipsies I have ancestors in France with the name of Margrie

Tony
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